Great. When last I looked at it, I still had concerns around the UTC question. "Undefined behavior" bothers me, and even with the added text I wasn't fully convinced that leaving the timezone undefined was the right call. Other than that it seemed fine to me.
-- Larry Garfield la...@garfieldtech.com On Tue, Jul 19, 2022, at 5:25 PM, Chuck Burgess wrote: > After the progress Chris and I made since Sunday, I want to do one more > read-over, possibly a wording PR... and then see if he as Editor is > ready for the next formal step. > CRB > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2022, 17:18 Larry Garfield <la...@garfieldtech.com> wrote: >> What's the verdict here? >> >> -- >> Larry Garfield >> la...@garfieldtech.com >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2022, at 6:30 AM, Chuck Burgess wrote: >> > Sorry folks... if there was another email thread on this trying to move >> > it along, I somehow missed it... and if Discord was deemed the official >> > replacement to replace the email group for such communications, I must >> > have missed it too... I haven't had enough space in my office area to >> > keep my OSS laptop open 24x7 like I used to do. >> > >> > I'll catch things up in the next week or so... I have something going >> > on late this week that will get in the way, which is why I think it >> > could take me into next week to catch things up. >> > CRB >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2022, 03:58 Andreas Heigl <andr...@heigl.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On 05.07.22 10:17, Alessandro Lai wrote: >> >> > What's the status on the spec? IIRC is basically complete, right? We >> >> > just >> >> > need to push it to the approval vote... >> >> >> >> There are still unresolved PRs regarding timezone issues. >> >> >> >> The spec is in the same state as it was almost a year ago. Since then I >> >> have tried at least twice to get it towards an approval vote but neither >> >> the sponsor or the editor were responding nor was the CC taking any >> >> actions. >> >> >> >> In at least the last try from my side to get to a readiness vote was >> >> also the option contained to take over the responsibility of the PSR. >> >> There has been no response whatsoever regarding that. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Andreas >> >> >> >> > >> >> > It would be a shame to abandon it now, when it's so close to the finish >> >> > line... >> >> > >> >> > Il giorno domenica 3 luglio 2022 alle 19:15:37 UTC+2 Larry Garfield ha >> >> > scritto: >> >> > >> >> >> The PSR-20 working group has been inactive for many months now (it's >> >> >> been >> >> >> 10 months since any changes to the spec document[1]), far longer than >> >> >> the >> >> >> allowed time for a working group to be inactive. The Editor, Chris >> >> >> Seufert, >> >> >> has been inactive and unreachable via Discord in the WG's channel for >> >> >> several months. The Sponsor, Chuck Burgess, has also not responded to >> >> >> messages on Discord in the WG's channel. >> >> >> >> >> >> Per the bylaws[2]: >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> >> >> The Editor or Sponsor of a Working Group may step down at any time by >> >> >> informing the Core Committee via the mailing list. If the departing >> >> >> individual specifies an intended replacement from the Working Group >> >> >> membership, that individual will assume the vacant role immediately, by >> >> >> Implicit Approval. If necessary, a Decision Vote to appoint a new >> >> >> Editor or >> >> >> Sponsor may be held following a suitable nomination period. >> >> >> >> >> >> Should a Working Group be missing an Editor for 60 days; be missing a >> >> >> Sponsor for 60 days; have insufficient active members for 60 days; or >> >> >> show >> >> >> no signs of activity for six months, then the Core Committee may hold a >> >> >> Decision Vote to name a new Editor or Sponsor, following a suitable >> >> >> nomination process. One of the options in that Decision Vote must be to >> >> >> dissolve the Working Group. If no suitable candidates for Editor or >> >> >> Sponsor >> >> >> may be found, then the Working Group is automatically dissolved. >> >> >> ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> At this time, the PSR-20 WG is inactive. There are four possible next >> >> >> steps: >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. The Sponsor becomes active again and nominates a new Editor who can >> >> >> complete the PSR and bring it to a vote. If there is a dispute over >> >> >> who the >> >> >> Editor should be, the CC will hold a Decision Vote. >> >> >> >> >> >> 2. The Sponsor may step down as Sponsor, in which case a new Sponsor >> >> >> from >> >> >> the CC will need to step forward. If there is a dispute over who the >> >> >> Editor >> >> >> should be, the CC will hold a Decision Vote. The new Sponsor will then >> >> >> take >> >> >> step 1. >> >> >> >> >> >> 3. Neither the Sponsor nor Editor are heard from, so the CC appoints a >> >> >> new >> >> >> Sponsor and Editor by Decision Vote. >> >> >> >> >> >> 4. The working group is dissolved and PSR-20 is listed as abandoned. >> >> >> >> >> >> Of note: Other current members of the working group[3] are eligible to >> >> >> be >> >> >> the new Editor, but the Sponsor must be a member of the Core Committee. >> >> >> >> >> >> If nothing happens within 2 weeks, I believe we should declare option 4 >> >> >> enacted by default and the WG abandoned. >> >> >> >> >> >> (I would personally like to avoid option 4, as I really do believe this >> >> >> spec is valuable and should be completed.) >> >> >> >> >> >> [1] https://github.com/php-fig/fig-standards/tree/master/proposed >> >> >> [2] >> >> >> https://www.php-fig.org/bylaws/mission-and-structure/#working-group-management >> >> >> [3] >> >> >> https://github.com/php-fig/fig-standards/blob/master/proposed/clock-meta.md#53-working-group-members >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:php-fig%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/a499036d-e132-4786-a547-371a4ae585c1%40www.fastmail.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/CANsgjnvOveHXn1vFObA6dyP37%3DwvpiCKPBohY_1MOjcC0nFMKw%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/CANsgjnvOveHXn1vFObA6dyP37%3DwvpiCKPBohY_1MOjcC0nFMKw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. 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