On Mon, Jun 23, 2025, at 3:19 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: > On Mon, Jun 23, 2025, at 12:03 PM, Korvin Szanto wrote: > >>>> > The biggest challenge at the moment, IMHO, is not having a way to >>>> > receive funds. I think that opening up the OpenCollective page for >>>> > donations will help solve our direct financial needs quickly. I believe >>>> > there are enough people here on the list that would gladly donate a >>>> > couple of dollar. For instance, I would consider changing my standing >>>> > donation to the PHP Foundation over to the FIG, knowing that any excess >>>> > would end up there anyway. >>>> >>>> Like I mentioned above, we can't expedite this process fast enough to get >>>> ahead of the expenses since they were due last week to my knowledge. Given >>>> that we'll certainly reach our funding goal immediately once we open it >>>> up, and that we haven't been able to accept money at all up until this >>>> point, I'd prefer not expediting the process without a clear reason to do >>>> so. >>> >>> I agree this should not be rushed, but we should also strike the iron while >>> its hot. These kind of discussions have a tendency to fade out of >>> everyone's attention, only to be rekindled too late for the next cycle. >> >> By this logic, stripping things out of this change would cause those >> things to fade out of everyone's attention. I would offer the best way >> to strike while hot would be to discuss the substance of the change, or >> call a vote if there's nothing more to discuss. > > I still hold that a swag shop discussion should not be "tucked in" to a > cleanup around the changes at Tideways. We can have multiple updates, > each with their own vote. We're not Congress, we don't need Big > Beautiful Bills. :-)
To clarify this, since it seems it was taken differently than intended: This is not a jab at Korvin, or the idea of a swag store. It's a jab at Congress and its propensity for bills too big for any human to understand; Trump's bill is just the latest in a long line of examples, including, like every budget resolution in the last decade. I'm not against a swag store; I just think even the authorization of it deserves a separate discussion from the rest of this, which is mostly mundane, uncontroversial cleanup. --Larry Garfield -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/491448b9-e54d-49a1-8e40-4e104b0e524e%40app.fastmail.com.
