One suggestion for all newbies (and all) is this :

    Search the archives

    Search google

Figure out a few keywords that will be in the answer and/or question and
do a search.  Go here :

    http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general

    Q: "I want to redirect using php, how?"  
    T: "redirect" or "redirection"

    Q: "When i use rand() it not work, why???????" 
    T: "random" or "rand" or "mt_rand"

Or, let's say PHP gives an error, search them too :

    Q: Headers already sent, wtf?!!!!!
    T: "headers already sent" and/or "Cannot add header information"

Remember, the archive is HUGE so sift through the pages, use the
navigation (next in thread, next => ...) and usually an answer will be
found.  YOU ARE NOT ALONE!

When using google, append the term "PHP" and guess what, it works!  Google
is amazing, it searches the entire world, all mailing lists, faqts, sites,
etc.  A little research goes a long ways and who knows what else will be
learned during this process (hint: a lot).  I digress.  Want to play a
little game?  For every question you see, research archives/google and see
how long it takes to find an answer.  It's fun!  But, each to their own.
It's easy to get frustrated by repeat questions but we must realize it's
not the same person asking over and over ... 

Regards,

Philip Olson
http://www.cornado.com/



On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Benjamin Munoz wrote:

> April, 
> 
> There was a discussion like in 1999 (i remember cuz I was learning PHP
> then), and Richard Lynch (i think) had a good point that splitting the list
> would reduce the quality of the answers on the beginners list--PHP newbies
> answering each others questions, you see.
> 
> Newbies should continue to post here.  A tip: some developers preface their
> posts with something like: "newbie question".  If you do this, you'll likely
> get flooded with friendly and helpful responses.    Try it :)
> 
> -Ben
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: April [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:25 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Suggest for List
> 
> 
> I've been searching for a much smaller PHP beginners lists, away from the
> official one, because I know I'm much too beginner for this one.  Everytime
> I post, I feel like I'm trying to snatch a cookie in full view of the
> headmistress, and probably going to get hit with her spoon for it.  You'll
> always get the idiots posting to the advanced list, yeah, it happens.  But I
> think that the quality of lists would generally go up for both advanced and
> beginning people - less interference and less pressure, respectively.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Boget, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Chris Lee'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [PHP] Suggest for List
> 
> 
> > > Good idea, I agree, this would be nice. It would allow
> > > posters to better categorize their question, and would
> > > give responders a good place to hangout depending on
> > > their skill set.
> >
> > This has been suggested before.  What you will invariably
> > find is that all users (beginner and advanced) will subscribe
> > and post to the advanced list because the beginners will
> > know there are people there who can answer any ?'s whereas
> > there may not be on the beginner list...
> >
> > Chris
> >
> 
> 
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