You could use a temp table in the database which gets cleaned up both
when the last page is completed or if there is data in it when the user
starts from scratch. Of course you would have to use sessions to
identify each user to each line of temp data. I'm not sure if this will
work, there are some problems to overcome here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Petre Agenbag [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 1. jl 2003 12:01
To: Shivanischal A
Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Form 2 PDF 2 Form

Hi Shiva
Appreciate your input. Wrt the spanning of the form, I think, in my
situation, it would actually make things worse... You see, my suspicion
is that most of the users who are experiencing problems, have very bad
connections, many complain that they lose connectivity while they are
busy with the form ( it takes them maybe 30 min or so to fill out the
entire form ( they basically transfer the data off paper forms they have
filled out earlier while "on-site", so it's not really alot of data, but
there are a lot of fields...)
So, my fear with this approach is that they will maybe get past the
first part of the form, submit that OK, then start getting trouble with
subsequent parts, leaving me with a whole lot of partial entries in the
DB., and how do I get them to "resume" at a a later stage?
You don't understand the mindset of these people, when something goes
wrong, they'll switch off their PC's and try to start from scratch, so
it's going to be difficult to try and get them to understand the concept
of multi-part forms... I shudder to even think what will happen, or
worse, how I will be able to allow them to make corrections on a certain
part of the form once they have submit it. And sometimes, to their
defense, it's not them that want to change the details on the form, but
the subject of the form who has decided to change their name etc...

I'm not ditching this idea, I will definitely give it some more thought,
it's just at this moment, my mind is running through my original idea of
PDF forms trying to evaluate it.

Each method will have it's pro's and cons, and I'll have to go and weigh
them. I must add, I don't see "effort" as a con for a particular
solution, as long as I know it will solve the problem without adding
other cons...

Thanks again, will take it up with you again ( need some more input on
this PDF thing to get some balanced views)

PS, if you have experience with using this method, I would appreciate it
if you could let me have your "field notes" and how successfull it's
working for you.
You see, the main thing here is that I need to KNOW when someone who
says they have submitted something actually have, and that they are not
trying their luck...

On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 13:43, Shivanischal A wrote:
> hi,
> seems u have complicated task on hand mate. cant u simply consider
span the
> user input over multiple pages? i mean using 2 or more form on
> pages instead of a single form on one single page. if this cant be
> we'll think of other measures. but this is by far the most simple
> -shiva
> "Petre Agenbag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > Hi List
> >
> > OK, firstly, sorry if this has been on the list before...
> >
> > What I'd like to do is something like this:
> >
> > I currently have an app that takes user input via a normal html
> > and then pops the content into mysql.
> >
> > The problem is that lots of user complain that the submit times out
> > to slow/bad connections, and hence the data gets lost.
> >
> > What I was hoping to do now, was to somehow create a PDF form from
> > current html form ( should generate itself on the fly ) , the PDF
> > will obviously need to be downloaded to the user's PC, and will be
> > unique for each time they use the system, ie, I don't want to just
> > them a blank template PDF, some of the values need to be
> > "auto-completed" and inserted into the form as "read-only", as well
as a
> > couple of "hidden" fields with identifying values so I can know
where to
> > pop it into the db.
> >
> > The idea is that the user will now come to the point where he would
> > usually have filled in the html form, but instead, the app must
> > autogenerate a PDF with some values auto-completed and/or hidden,
> > the user then downloads the pdf to his/her PC, where they continue
> > fill out the pdf form.
> >
> > Then, on completetion, I'd like to investigate several delivery
> > mechanisms, arguably, the easiest way for the users ( who are mostly
> > techno-peasants), is to simply e-mail the pdf as an attachment to
> > but then I will either have to create an auto-parser for the email
> > (prolly difficult and prone to problems with making sure the
> > is correct etc), or I will have to then manually process the
> > attachments.
> >
> > Either way, I would need to "feed" the pdf to my app, where the
> > form/hidden variables would need to be harvested from the form, and
> > then (after validation), be entered into the db.
> >
> > So, simple concept, but I'm sure many pitfalls, the least being
> > that I have never done this, and don't know where to start, or even
> > it's possible/advisable to follow this route.
> >
> > Hence my post here...
> >
> >

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