On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 13:11, Martin Alterisio wrote:
> 2006/6/6, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 09:46, Martin Alterisio wrote:
> > > 2006/6/6, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > > In C++ they do leave it to the coder, and well, we all know what a
> > mess
> > > > it can be deciphering overloaded operators in C++ (or maybe we ALL
> > > > don't). At any rate, the PHP overlords made a choice, and IMHO the
> > best
> > > > choice. For such a fringe issue I don't see what the argument is all
> > > > about. If you want the functionality you get in C by incrementing a
> > > > char, then use the chr() function on an integer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > You're right about ++ operator not to be considered a math operator, my
> > > mistake. What I should have said is that the usual connotation and
> > expected
> > > behaviour of ++ and the comparison operators is to give iteration
> > > capabilities to a certain data type, as used in a for statement. For
> > that to
> > > happen certain constrains must be true for these operators, one of them
> > > being: any < ++any, which is not true for the way these operators behave
> > in
> > > php.
> >
> > You must have missed this post:
> >
> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general&m=114945456908350&w=2
> >
> >
> Yes, I haven't read that post. That algorithm has an error, an overflow on a
> signed char, and that's implementation issue not a design issue.

Actually it's a design issue. C uses a numeric datatype that is bound by
a specific number of bits. It could just have well have been designed
with a numeric datatype that had arbitrary length. The design decision
was made to keep it close to the machine. However, the point I was
making is that dealing with fringe cases is a necessity when you want to
ensure your code is robust.

> PS: It's a little bit rude to say "you *must* have missed" but I understand
> that it wasn't your intention.

Sorry, didn't mean to be rude :)

Cheers,
Rob.
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