Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 10:55 -0600, Shawn McKenzie wrote:
>> Robert Cummings wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 21:18 -0600, Shawn McKenzie wrote:
>>>> Matthew Croud wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> First post here, I'm in the process of learning PHP , I'm digesting a
>>>>> few books as we speak.
>>>>> I'm working on a content heavy website that provides a lot of
>>>>> information, a template system would be great and so i've been looking
>>>>> at ways to create dynamic data with a static navigation system.
>>>>> So far, using the require_once(); function seems to fit the bill in
>>>>> order to bring in the same header html file on each page.
>>>>> I've also looked at Smartys template system.
>>>>> I wondered how you folk would go about creating a template system ?
>>>>> My second question might be me jumping the gun here, I haven't come
>>>>> across this part in my book but i'll ask about it anyway.  I often see
>>>>> websites that have a dynamic body and static header, and their web
>>>>> addresses end like this: "index.php?id=445" where 445 i presume is some 
>>>>> my 
>>>>> file reference.
>>>>> What is this called ?  It seems like the system i'm after but it doesn't
>>>>> appear in my book,  If anyone could let me know what this page id
>>>>> subject is called i can do some research on the subject.
>>>>> Thanks for any help you can provide :)
>>>>> Matt.
>>>> I have written a popular theme/template system for some CMS systems.  In
>>>> my opinion, templating is only needed for those that are totally
>>>> ignorant of the concept of programming languages in general.
>>> I'm not sure... but I'm pretty sur eyou just called me ignorant. Blanket
>>> statements like that one above are themselves ignorant.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Rob.
>> Well then you're ignorant because I didn't call you ignorant!  Didn't
>> you write your own template system?
>> Seriously though, I should have worded that differently.  I guess the
>> second paragraph was more what I was after.  But to clarify the first
>> paragraph, I would suspect if they are anything like me, many of those
>> that know and use PHP prefer to do control type things in PHP (loops,
>> ifs, includes, etc.).  I know I do.  I like templating in that I use a
>> template (HTML file) and add echos, or use simple templating logic so
>> that {somevar} echoes $somevar, but why replicate what PHP can do with a
>> separate language?
> To punt what is repeated over and over during runtime to a single
> compilation phase when building the template target. To simplify the use
> of parameters so that they can be used in arbitrary order with default
> values. To allow for the encapsulation of complex content in tag format
> that benefits from building at compile time and from being encapsulated
> in custom tags that integrate well with the rest of the HTML body. To
> remove the necessaity of constantly moving in and out of PHP tags. To
> speed up a site. To speed up development. To make easier to use for
> non-developers. To integrate standards compliance checks into the build
> phase. To do sooooooooooooooo many things that are just inconvenient and
> tedious using intermingled PHP code with fixed parameters order (or
> alternatively a big fugly array).
> Cheers,
> Rob.

Is that it?


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