You just gotta love religious wars.....
How many people know about SGML? HTML is a standard implemented in SGML, and
so has many of the possible features of SGML which got excluded for XML such as
* ommissible end tags
* optional quotes on attribute values that don't contain spaces or quotes
* implied attribute values
* ommissible attribute names ( eg for things like "checked" )
Anyway. Not wading in to the debate. Just making an observation....
At 02:20 10/07/2001 -0500, Navid A. Yar wrote:
>I guess this is just one of those things where everyone's opinions runs in
>different directions, yet everyone is entitled to their own. I myself try to
>respect the standard because of the browser war years which made everyone
>uncomfortable. Now most browsers are trying to merge into a single standard
>(thank god). I believe the future to be XML, and I also don't think HTML
>will ever go away. However, I do believe that HTML will be treated more
>strict (hence the emergence of XHTML which is based on HTML 4.0 and XML). My
>suggestion to everyone is to continue using standards and try not to go
>astray from them, else we know the headaches us developers can face in the
>future.
>
>Sincerely,
> Navid Yar
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Maxim Maletsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:06 AM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [PHP] stripping white space?
>
>
>Yeah, I know that XML requires it. And I also know that it is not a good
>code practice, but it perfectly works for HTML pages. Browsers compatible
>with the style sheets have no problems with this code (there's no
>connection), and if there's any XML to work on the HTML will be rewritten
>anyway, so there's really no reason to worry about it. Just the size gets
>lower and typing (escaping in PHP) is easier. I think it IS a good practice
>if you only practicing HTML to be outputted by PHP.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
> Maxim Maletsky
> Founder, Chief Developer
> PHPBeginner.com (Where PHP Begins)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.phpbeginner.com
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Navid A. Yar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 2:40 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [PHP] stripping white space?
>
>
>If you do this then those who will want to eventually convert their projects
>over to XML or XHTML format will have a hard time doing so, because the
>double quotes around the values of the attributes are required. Also, it's
>not good code practice. Just something for future reference...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Maxim Maletsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 12:16 AM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Kurt Lieber; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [PHP] stripping white space?
>
>
>I would not be stripping white spaces, but double white spaces into single '
>';
>
>for example:
>
>$html = ereg_replace("[[:space:]]+", ' ', $page);
>
>I never tested this, but what I am trying to do is to get all and any blank
>characters and replace them with one single space. Why? Because I don't want
>all the words in text to merge together.
>
>This should reduce the size.
>
>Also here's a tip: remove any double or single quotes in tags surrounding
>integers. This is compatible enough, but is a bunch of bytes.
>
>i.e.:
>
>change every
><IMG SRC="/img/arrow.gif" WIDTH="12" HEIGHT="11" BORDER="0" ALT="arrow"
>align="left">
>
>to
>
><IMG SRC="/img/arrow.gif" WIDTH=12 HEIGHT=11 BORDER=0 ALT="arrow"
>align="left">
>
>this example is reduced by 6 bytes.
>
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
> Maxim Maletsky
> Founder, Chief Developer
> PHPBeginner.com (Where PHP Begins)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.phpbeginner.com
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mukul Sabharwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 2:05 PM
>To: Kurt Lieber; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [PHP] stripping white space?
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I take that you simply want to remove ALL whitespaces
>from a data block (variable).
>
>you could simply use str_replace(" ", "", $var);
>
>
>
>--- Kurt Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a way using PHP to easily strip white space
> > out of an html page as
> > it's being sent to the client. That is to say, the
> > page that we as
> > developers work on is nicely formatted, indented,
> > etc. but when it's sent
> > out to the client, PHP will remove all the extra
> > white space both to
> > obfuscate the code and reduce the size a bit.
> >
> > For anyone who knows Cold Fusion, I'm looking for
> > the PHP equivalent of the
> > "Suppress whitespace by default" option in the Cold
> > Fusion Server
> > Administrator.
> >
> > (NOTE: I'm not looking for a discussion on the
> > merits of stripping vs. not
> > stripping white space characters or whether or not
> > it really does any
> > good -- I just want to know if it can be done easily
> > using PHP)
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --kurt
> >
> >
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