On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Marc Guay wrote:

>> i recommend propel
>> http://www.propelorm.org/
> Holy Moses that thing is a monster.  It requires installing extra
> libraries (Phing) in order to create an XML schema reverse-engineered
> from my existing database.  The code looks simple enough but that
> installation is brutal.  Any other suggestions?  I'm thinking of
> sticking with good ol' hand coding and a few helper classes.
> Marc

I kind of had the same reaction when I saw it!  I started playing around with 
it and realized that if I ever make any database changes I'm going to have to 
regenerate everything!  Seems a bit cumbersome to me but I'm an "good ol' hand 
coding and a few helper classes" programmer myself!  I wound up creating a very 
light-weight yet flexible framework that has served me well over the past few 
years.  I've been thinking about releasing it but it doesn't follow the 
traditional model of most of the MVC frameworks I've seen.

Take care,

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