> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Lind [mailto:peter.e.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 3:05 AM
> To: Tommy Pham
> Cc: Lester Caine; php-general List
> Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
> 
> On Sunday, 12 December 2010, Tommy Pham <tommy...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk]
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 2:10 AM
> >> To: php-general List
> >> Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
> >>
> >> Peter Lind wrote:
> >> > Your posts seem to indicate that caches are only useful when other
> >> > parts of the app have been done wrong. My point was that this is a
> >> > fairly fundamental misunderstanding of caches - regardless of what
> >> > you are or aren't capable of optimizing.
> >>
> >> CHACHES are only useful when there are static views of the
> >> information available. Only static elements can be cached with any
> >> real chance of performance improvement, so part of what Tommy is
> saying is correct.
> >> Although the way he has worded that is perhaps a little misleading?
> 
> Possibly. However, thinking that a cache is something you apply at the end
> of development means you may well bar yourself from better uses of one.
> Ie. thinking that a cache is "icing on the cake" prohibits you from "mixing it
> into the cake" (to further abuse a metaphor) which could give you "a better
> recipe".

I'm not sure about being 'a better cake' with all that sugar, you'll have a 
higher chance of diabetes.  Therefore in trying to achieve a healthy (lean & 
mean) app, you'll more chances of having problems than it intend to solve.

Regards,
Tommy

>  I may have misunderstood the topic, but a cache to me is more than just
> storing views. It's also the db cache, memcache, apc, etc. You have to think
> about how you use these - some of them can't just be slapped on to your
> app after development.
> 
> 
> >> Data caching SHOULD always be the
> >> domain of the database, so duplicating that in PHP is pintless.
> 
> So you're saying one should never use memcache for storing data from the
> db?
> 
> Regards
> Peter
> 
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