Thanks to Micah Ive resolved my old problem, but now im working on something new and fairly gnarly...i ahve a data entry form and one of the textareas on the form needs to have the ability to take a table...from users who dont know html. does anyone know any possible solutions to this dilemma? It would be easy if the field would always have a table with specific properties, but that is not the case, there may or may not be a table and the number of rows and colums used and data input into the table if it does exist will vary from record to record. Is there any way to accomplish this tha tyou can think of? Im almost certain that there is nothing quick and easy but i was wondering if anyone out there had ideas. Just FYI i plan on having a seperat page to view data with that will pull the data out of a table, and, ideally format the html into a table for display.