I recently checked up on just about every PHP application framework I could find. I thought I'd throw my conclusions out for anyone else who was looking for something similar.
What I was looking for: Not a whole lot, really. basics like user management (including admin controls for deleting, banning, ...), permissions, maybe a tried-and-tested utility library. Has to run on postgresql, because -- no flames, please :) -- once you have experienced coding on a real database with views, triggers, subqueries, etc. you can't go back. What I found: (Some of these aren't exactly app frameworks, but enough people thought of them that way for them to show up on my searches so I'll include them too.) ---------- phplib -- pretty much unmaintained for a year or so. too bad. php3 code, not php4. phpgroupware -- more of a collection of apps; the "framework" concept is there, but is pretty underwhelming. smarty -- templating engine, but not a full framework. binarycloud -- life is too short to write web pages with XSLT w/o a REALLY good reason. XSLT is a poster boy for why design by comittee sucks. shudder. these guys have attended too many XML marketing seminars. ("XML Configuration Files." If you really wanted to make it useful, you'd store configurables in the database where it's editable w/o root access. And you wouldn't use XML. :0) No data model included, which makes it more of a utility kit than a real app framework. krysalis -- commercial. looked a lot like binarycloud in terms of the "XML is the answer to everything" outlook but I grimly soldiered on through the unnecessarily complex registration & download forms. has some kind of IDE but their main strength appears to be spelling everything with a K. Datamodel just includes users table and a bizarre naming convention. midgard -- limited to mysql backend. Also has a quite hefty list of requirements that would probably require VSD hosting to install, which start at 2.5 times a decent apache + php + postgres shared account, so that makes it a poor fit for low end hobbyists or anyone who doesn't want to install a whole bunch of software. twig -- not much to report here as I gave up in disgust when I saw that their recommended PG version is 6.4.2. Either they are idiots or they only update their docs every 4 years or so. Or the project itself hasn't been updated in that long. horde -- main point in its favor is it is quite actively developped, and has an active community (mailing list has rougly 10x activity of the others here), but the docs are pathetic. (maybe that is why there is so much mailing list activity. :) Whoever designed Horde's rudimentary data model was clueless -- primary key of the user table is the screen name, for instance. blueshoes -- commercial. Docs only in pdf. (!?) I also couldn't find anything on their site about mailing lists or discussion boards so there's no way to tell what their users think. Download is relatively huge but quantity isn't quality. No .sql files. Grepping for 'create table' came up with a few hits but nothing very promising. How the devil do you justify CHARGING for an "app framework" that doesn't even provide rudimentary user tracking? :/ phpshop, rechristened Core -- cvs tree is quite active. 3000 commits in under 3 months -- unsure how usable the actual code is right this minute. Most impressive thing to me is 0 open, 162 close bugs on sourceforge. You NEVER see sourceforge projects that stay on top of those. Never. Small-ish user base. Uses phplib. Not much in the way of docs but given how in-flux the code appears to be perhaps that's understandable. Note: home page says 4 mailing lists. Only active one is the cvs log. For user discussion, see the Forums link at the top-right. (Not the SF forums.) mysql-only; disappointing data model. roadsend sitemanager -- smallish user base. the site is pretty nicely put together. fairly comprehensive docs. (the name suggested to me that it's CMS-centric but that doesn't seem to be the case.) maintained by a company that uses it in consulting. weak data model. mason -- I took a look at the most popular (? slash doesn't count) perl app framework for fun. It would have to be pretty impressive to convince me to go with perl... but I never had to face that dilemma; mason is just a glorified templating engine. Disappointing. ---------- Conclusion: none of these really fits what I thought were pretty minimal requirements. If I had to pick one, I'd probably go with sitemanager, which is nearing the end of a development cycle. Horde has too many apps built on the current model for them to look kindly on some newcomer saying, "Your data model sucks. Let's replace it with one that doesn't." Am I missing a great project? I'd love to be wrong. -Jonathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php