On 29 December 2012 04:30, Philip Olson <phi...@roshambo.org> wrote:
> On Dec 27, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Adam Harvey wrote:
>> I've spent part of my afternoon working through the beta site and
>> trying to deal with the last few issues that we have left before we
>> can make a decision on when to make it live. There are undoubtedly
>> still styling issues that should be dealt with, but at this point, I
>> feel as though we can fix those post-launch — the site is definitely
>> usable, and I think it's a definite improvement on our current layout.
>
> Why wait to fix styling issues post-launch? Or do you mean edge cases
> that users will find?

Yeah, I mean edge cases. We have so many manual pages that use
different combinations of markup — somewhere along the line, I'm sure
we'll have missed something.

> Agreed. And I've promised to help write this to several people but
> haven't, so will publicly state that I'll help with the documentation
> and notes part before launch.

+1. :)

>> 1. Should we keep the mega dropdown?
>
> Yes, I'm a big fan. It's useful and means less clicking. Providing
> easy access to commonly used items is a huge win. I like how you
> reduced the documentation menu size. The only possible addition
> that comes to mind is the database group.

I had that in there originally, but the us3 stats suggested that
date/time functions were more commonly hit, and I was trying to keep
it to the height it is now. Happy to have a tinker with that.

>> 2. If yes, should we split up the get involved content per the branch?
>
> Yes, most certainly. Agreed it's time we clarify how to contribute and
> do so at a single location. It could also explain mysteries like why
> we have a different PECL account. And how karma works. So as you
> suggest, having the landing page with different sections would make
> this giant page less overwhelming. And we're also missing basic
> instructions like how to make a PECL release. Perhaps add a FAQ to
> the get involved section?

If we can brainstorm some questions, I'm happy to add a FAQ. The other
points are really good ones, and I'll see what I can do to address
them.

>> 3. When should we launch the site?
>
> Maybe target the launch with the 5.5.0 release? That's moderately
> crazy as I'm not sure when that'll be. Maybe March? Just a random
> thought, not a proposal. :)

It's not a bad thought. :) Let's see how the new tutorial and get
involved content come together in terms of a January launch.

> As for large tasks that should be completed before launch. Currently
> there's a large [Begin Tutorial] button on the front page. However,
> our tutorial is old and, honestly, sucks^H^H^H^H^His of low quality.
> We've depended on the PHP community for basic tutorials. But a
> rewrite is in progress here:
>
>   https://github.com/PeeHaa/php-net-tutorial
>
> So I feel it's important that it be committed before launch.
> Pieter is aware and plans to commit in January.

Completely agreed. That was actually something I meant to flag in my
earlier e-mail and forgot. I'm glad it's being worked on.

Adam

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