On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 18:47 +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:

> I agree that this doesn't belong to the frontpage, nor do we did ever have
> stuff like this there.
> But I also think that removing it would do more harm than good at this
> point.
> I also think that having a easier to understand channel and posts like this
> to communicate the roadmap and development of the project would be a nice
> thing to have (as long as we don't try to use the frontpage for that).
> So I would suggest checking out the updated version from Levi, and discuss
> if it still has any controversial stuff.

yes, I agree that we should have simpler to digest channels for users to
follow with little effort. In the past we had Steph Fox for some time
creating nicely written weekly summaries. recently I found Pascal Martin
doing this on a monthly base:
http://blog.pascal-martin.fr/post/php-mailing-list-internals-february-2014-en  

Maybe we can also work with the Planet PHP guys to work on some
highlighting of different authors/content ("internals related" /
"framework related" / "app related" / ...) and maybe integrate it in
some way with php.net or alternatively work on people.php.net to allow
developers to post their view.

However we should keep the focus of the php.net main news stream clear
factual news. Advertise improvements made in 5.6 ("sell what we have")

Mind that compared to php.net the blogs and other sites have a quite
small reach so damage they cause is quite little. A posting on php.net
(especially when used by some "journalist" on the bi news sites) can
create quite wrong expectations easily (the journalist has limited time
for research and condenses it, the reader just picks up some sentences
with even less context ...)

So yes, we have room for improvement, and yes as a trigger for such a
debate this post was helpful, but further discussion should be done
aside from this precise "incident".

johannes




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