Hi Hannes, I agree there are many places where you can get binaries, but as you point out only a few are kept up to date / maintained. It is because of that that is necessary that the PHP project itself provides a curated list.
If you do not have the time to verify the quality of the list, we (Bitnami) offer to volunteer and curate the list, reviewing that submissions conform to whatever guidelines are in place (i.e. that they have an open source license and that they are kept up to date to the latest released versions). The alternative of telling people "just Google it" will be confusing for end-users, specially beginner ones. I personally think this should live in the Download page of php.net (as it is the most common place users will look for it) but we can also create a separate site that we maintain and you can link to it. Best regards Daniel On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Hannes Magnusson <bj...@php.net> wrote: > I don't have the time to click all the links to see if they have > updated for critical security updates after each release - or to see > if the sites even work anymore. > When PHP was a young project it may have been difficult to find binaries. > Today, there are roughly 100x other places you can find binaries then > we link to. > > Its great that you keep your binaries up2date, but we cannot be > showing preferential treatment to projects giving the false impression > they are somehow "approved" by php.net. > > I cannot maintain this list and cannot verify its quality. > > I recommend you start your own list if you would like a list of this > sort of projects. > > -Hannes > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Daniel Lopez <dan...@bitnami.com> wrote: >> Hi Hannes, >> >> Can you elaborate a bit more on why they would be harmful? We would >> like to address any concerns you may have. Our binaries (Bitnami / >> XAMPP) are kept up to date (sometimes within ours of a new release) >> and we support all versions of PHP, including RC. A lot of users, >> specially new ones on platforms like OS X and Windows, find pre-built >> binaries very useful to get up and running >> >> Best regards >> >> Daniel >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Hannes Magnusson <bj...@php.net> wrote: >>> Commit: 6dfbaafab81e5b53419f95a5203a2b4e30e46a98 >>> Author: Hannes Magnusson <bj...@mongodb.com> Tue, 15 Jul 2014 >>> 10:05:03 -0700 >>> Parents: c9da59289b2b9853ada05f8b3c1c304ea221c45c >>> Branches: master >>> >>> Link: >>> http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=commitdiff;h=6dfbaafab81e5b53419f95a5203a2b4e30e46a98 >>> >>> Log: >>> This list hasn't been useful for long time and does more harm then good >>> >>> Changed paths: >>> M downloads.php >>> >>> >>> Diff: >>> diff --git a/downloads.php b/downloads.php >>> index a98b1f1..a591731 100644 >>> --- a/downloads.php >>> +++ b/downloads.php >>> @@ -61,36 +61,6 @@ $SIDEBAR_DATA = ' >>> <p class="panel"><a href="http://snaps.php.net/";>Development >>> Snapshots</a></p> >>> <p class="panel"><a href="/git.php">Development sources (git)</a></p> >>> <p class="panel"><a href="/releases/">Old archives</a></p> >>> - >>> -<div class="panel"> >>> - <p class="headline">Binaries</p> >>> - <div class="body"> >>> - <p> >>> - We do not distribute UNIX/Linux binaries. Most Linux >>> - distributions come with PHP these days, so if you do >>> - not want to compile your own, go to your distribution\'s >>> - download site. Binaries available on external servers: >>> - </p> >>> - <ul> >>> - <li><a href="http://windows.php.net/";>Windows (PHP.net)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://bitnami.com/stack/wamp";>Windows >>> (BitNami)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://www.ampps.com/";>Windows (AMPPS)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://www.apachefriends.org/download.html";>Windows >>> (XAMPP)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://www.ampps.com/";>Mac OS X (AMPPS)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://www.mamp.info/";>Mac OS X (MAMP)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://www.apachefriends.org/";>Mac OS X (XAMPP)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://bitnami.com/stack/mamp";>Mac OS X >>> (BitNami)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://bitnami.com/stack/lamp";>Linux (BitNami)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://www.apachefriends.org/";>Linux (XAMPP)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://www.ampps.com/";>Linux (AMPPS)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://iuscommunity.org/";>Redhat/CentOS Binaries >>> (IUS)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://rpms.famillecollet.com/";>Fedora/Redhat/CentOS >>> Binaries (Remi)</a></li> >>> - <li><a href="http://www.opencsw.org/packages/php5";>Solaris OpenCSW >>> packages</a></li> >>> - </ul> >>> - </div> >>> -</div> >>> - >>> - >>> '; >>> >>> site_header("Downloads", >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Daniel Lopez, CEO. http://bitnami.com >> Confidential - All Rights Reserved. BitNami © 2014 -- Daniel Lopez, CEO. http://bitnami.com Confidential - All Rights Reserved. BitNami © 2014 -- PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
