Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Adding in announcement for php[cruise]: archive/archive.xml archive/entries/2015-12-04-1.xml images/news/phpcruise.2015.png

[Eli]

Hey Hannes, thanks for the response ... but I'm a bit confused ... read on:

> That mere hours after a major release and what will become historic
> release

I'm glad that you are concerned about this.  As it's a very important
point.  However, please note that absolutely no "evil plan" existed for
me to attempt to hijack the php7 news.

This was just a bullet item of 'something I need to do' that was on my
todo list and I got around to finally a few weeks after php[world].  I
honestly hadn't even thought about the timing at all. 

> you overwrite your own conference as the top entry so the
> major release announcement gets hidden away.

So here is where I'm extremely confused.  How does a new conference
entry "hide away" the php7 announcement?

They are displayed on completely different pages.  PHP7 shows up on the
homepage.  The conference announcements show up on /conferences/ only. 
Which was a change specifically made many years ago to make sure that
conference announcements didn't affect the homepage.

So - How exactly does a new conference announcement happen to hide away
the launch?  I'm honestly-100%-confused here.

> I'd be great if you could still help the rest of the smaller
> conferences that ask to be listed more actively though. It does matter
> to them a great deal to be listed as early as possible, not a week or
> two or even a month later.

First of all:  I have been, to the best of my ability with workload and
family.  I also seem to be one-of-a-few who publish the 'unapproved
events'.   It would be nice if volunteers were allowed to do so, and
volunteer to the best of their ability.  Without a constant nag of: "You
aren't volunteering well enough."

Secondly: Just as a note.  You refer to the 'smaller conferences' as
needing help.  Though in practice many of those smaller conferences are
actually bigger than the ones I run.  Just sharing there.  And yes, they
happen to compete in said space.  But I volunteer here, and help out,
because it's for the good of the community.  That's the whole reason I
do everything that I do :-D  -- Trust me, I wouldn't be doing this job
at horrible pay if it wasn't for that ;)

> You may put this as the second entry in archive.xml, but you will not
> be the top entry during the initial hours, or first few days of the
> release.
> It is entirely inappropriate for anything to hijack this announcement.
> Visiting http://php.net/foobar should result in the PHP7 announcement,
> not link to your day job.

Again, completely confused as to how putting a conference announcement
hijacks anything.  They don't appear on the homepage.

> This has been very consistent behaviour over the years by conference
> organizers, and I understand that you all try to time your
> announcements during peak visiting hours to php.net

I can't speak for anyone else.  But for myself.  I've never once tried
to time an announcement with php.net details.  I simply don't have the
mental bandwidth to attempt to do something like that.  I'm struggling
just to get my normal daily activities done as it is.   I push in
announcements for my conferences when it's 'time to do so'.  Regardless
of any php.net news.  Of which I'm usually behind on anyway (for same
reason).

So please let me know/understand how a conference announcement somehow
buries a PHP announcement, when the conference announcements don't
appear on the homepage anyway....

And let me know when you feel it's appropriate to put something in ... I
have an Early Bird ending and want to make sure people know about it, to
quell the tide of "Ooops I didn't know can I get the EB rate anyway"
emails in January.

Thanks Hannes,
Eli


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