I'm yet to be convinced it isn't a bug. I suspect it is a bug that has been 
around so long that they can't afford to fix it or it may break many 
applications that for various peculiar reasons rely on it to behave as it does 
for their code to work.

For those who have tried to defend its behaviour, this is my logic.

1. The == operator means, by definition, "don't worry about variable 'type', just 
compare the values"
  (This is probably the single thing I love about PHP more than anything else)

2. If the numeric variable $x is given ANY other numeric value other than zero, the logic behaves correctly as you read it

So it is irrational for program logic to vary between a zero value and, for 
aguments sake, a numeric value of 42.

Regarding specifically TG's explanation below, I believe he is wrong. If you 
compare a numeric type and a string type using ==, PHP should convert the 
number to a string and compare the two from there.

Anyway, not expecting any answers to this, just a point of note and a strange 
quirk to keep at the back of your head when consciously comparing numeric / 
string variables.

Ross

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's because PHP is trying to convert different var types into a common var 
type and then compare them when you use ==.  === means compare value AND type 
so that's why it fails.

Your string, 'Some kind of string' is getting converted down to the lowest 
common denominator, an int.  Since there are no numbers in the string to grab 
onto, it gets converted to nothing, an int value of zero.

If you had $x = "0" or if $y had contained numbers at all, it wouldn't have 
passed.

But this is why when you use $x.'' it works properly because now you have "0<empty 
string>", it's been converted to a string value "0".  Good catch on that though, shows 
good methodical debugging :)

So in the future, either use === or be extra aware of your variable types and 
make sure you're comparing properly.

Good luck!

-TG

= = = Original message = = =

$x = 0; // Numeric zero
$y = 'Some kind of string';

if ($x == $y) echo 'they equal using ==';
if ($x === $y) echo 'they equal using ===';

The above will echo 'they equal using =='.

The values don't look very equal to me.

Can anyone explain the logic behind this?

I'm heading home now but look forward to your explanations tomorrow.

PS

Incidently, to 'fix' it so it behaves as it should, you can code:

if ($x.'' == $y.'') echo 'this will not print and all is good.';

Regards .. Ross


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