Well per this PHP page: 
http://us2.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.comparison.php,
"If you compare an integer with a string, the string is converted to a number. "

So to follow this regarding your example:

$x = 0; // Numeric zero
$y = 'Some kind of string';

if (is_null($x)) echo "x is NULL<br>";
if (is_null($y)) echo "y is NULL<br>";

echo "x is [" . gettype($x) . "]<br>";
echo "y is [" . gettype($y) . "]<br>";

echo "y as integer=[" . (int)($y) . "]<br>";

if ($x == $y) echo 'they equal using ==';
if ($x === $y) echo 'they equal using ===';


As you might see from the line 'echo "y as integer...' if you cast the string, 
$y, as an integer
per the PHP page referenced above the value reported is integer zero. So this 
is how if can equal
$x which is already an integer and value zero itself.

No for some of you assumptions philosophies etc.

Many think PHP is a typeless language. This is not accurate. PHP is actually a 
loosley-typed
language. This is evident from the ability to assign type to variables. Also in 
the fact that you
are allowed to compared variables to each other (at you own risk) even if the 
types do not match.
This is very unlike other strong-typed languages like C and C++. 

The designers of the PHP language semantics had to make a choice in how a 
compare of mixed-typed
variables would be handled. In my opinion, being a C++ developer in a former 
life, it is easier to
convert the string to numeric than the numeric to string for the 'on-the-fly' 
compare.

I hope this helps your understanding. My suggestion is if you are still of the 
mind this is a bug
report it to PHP.

P-  


--- Ross Honniball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm yet to be convinced it isn't a bug. I suspect it is a bug that has been 
> around so long that
> they can't afford to fix it or it may break many applications that for 
> various peculiar reasons
> rely on it to behave as it does for their code to work.
> 
> For those who have tried to defend its behaviour, this is my logic.
> 
> 1. The == operator means, by definition, "don't worry about variable 'type', 
> just compare the
> values"
>    (This is probably the single thing I love about PHP more than anything 
> else)
> 
> 2. If the numeric variable $x is given ANY other numeric value other than 
> zero, 
>    the logic behaves correctly as you read it
> 
> So it is irrational for program logic to vary between a zero value and, for 
> aguments sake, a
> numeric value of 42.
> 
> Regarding specifically TG's explanation below, I believe he is wrong. If you 
> compare a numeric
> type and a string type using ==, PHP should convert the number to a string 
> and compare the two
> from there.
> 
> Anyway, not expecting any answers to this, just a point of note and a strange 
> quirk to keep at
> the back of your head when consciously comparing numeric / string variables.
> 
> Ross
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > It's because PHP is trying to convert different var types into a common var 
> > type and then
> compare them when you use ==.  === means compare value AND type so that's why 
> it fails.
> > 
> > Your string, 'Some kind of string' is getting converted down to the lowest 
> > common denominator,
> an int.  Since there are no numbers in the string to grab onto, it gets 
> converted to nothing, an
> int value of zero.
> > 
> > If you had $x = "0" or if $y had contained numbers at all, it wouldn't have 
> > passed.
> > 
> > But this is why when you use $x.'' it works properly because now you have 
> > "0<empty string>",
> it's been converted to a string value "0".  Good catch on that though, shows 
> good methodical
> debugging :)
> > 
> > So in the future, either use === or be extra aware of your variable types 
> > and make sure you're
> comparing properly.
> > 
> > Good luck!
> > 
> > -TG
> > 
> > = = = Original message = = =
> > 
> > $x = 0; // Numeric zero
> > $y = 'Some kind of string';
> > 
> > if ($x == $y) echo 'they equal using ==';
> > if ($x === $y) echo 'they equal using ===';
> > 
> > The above will echo 'they equal using =='.
> > 
> > The values don't look very equal to me.
> > 
> > Can anyone explain the logic behind this?
> > 
> > I'm heading home now but look forward to your explanations tomorrow.
> > 
> > PS
> > 
> > Incidently, to 'fix' it so it behaves as it should, you can code:
> > 
> > if ($x.'' == $y.'') echo 'this will not print and all is good.';
> > 
> > Regards .. Ross
> > 
> > 
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