> > > (and don't be afraid that making your stuff free will
> > > harm sales, it will most likely be the other way round
> > > making people buy the book instead of printing out
> > > the manual themselves)
> > 
> > The same happened to some Hungarian books (free online
> > version and a book), and it works very well. And see
> > http://www.docbook.org/
> 
> Huh, do you mean Norman Walsh's book TDG? The situation here is very
> different from our case. Norman is the leader of the DocBook effort and
> he will receive money from the publisher. If you read this online,
> Norman gets no money. Anyway, DocBook is like PHP a Open Source Software
> and to publish a book is commercial.

O'reilly published that book, you can also download in many formats
for free. This was what I meant.

> Tell me a publisher who publish a book and give it away as gift. 

Kiskapu (the publisher of the first hungarian PHP book) also
published a Linux book, and made the contents available online. :))
 
> If someone will translate the PHP manual and publish it (through a
> publisher), the original authors don't get money. This is IMHO
> plagiarism.

You are Right. I meant that the same people publishes who is the
author. Hartmut said, that Angriawan should commit his changes
to the phpdoc team, and so he can publish that book. It is
not the same case, as you are talking about. I can agree with
you in the current case.

Goba

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