On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Wez Furlong wrote:
> Do you volunteer to maintain 2 * (number of translations) of the
> information about which streams/wrappers are present?

  Users are not expected to read the entire documentation
  of PHP streams API just to get some information on how 
  to use the PHP functions found in ref.stream  This is
  especially true when this information is moved into the
  developers manual later on.

  Also, my comments below are more general then this
  specific topic of available streams.  And besides, I
  can't find this information in the appendix so please
  point me to it.

> That is the reason that I moved the wrapper information into an
> appendix, because it made reading about this stuff difficult (and the
> fopen() reference page unreadable).

  Which is why ref.stream now exists.  A place where your
  typical PHP user can learn how to use streams, not a
  place to learn how to implement streams into PHP 
  extensions.

  Regards,
  Philip



> On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Philip Olson wrote:
> 
> > > > When are certain streams not available, like, I assume
> > > > allow_url_fopen dictates the availability of the http stream?
> > > > FTP module for ftp, etc.
> > > >
> > > This is all documented in Apendix I (which is linked a couple times from
> > > ref.stream), do you think we need to go into it in detail on ref.stream as
> > > well?
> >
> > I'm struggling with a response to this but in the end
> > I feel the answer is yes.  Here's why:
> >
> > a) Users should never be expected to read about
> >    the streams API much like users are never
> >    expected to understand PHP source.
> > b) This only adds to the confusion on which functions
> >    are PHP functions and which are part of the
> >    API.
> > c) One day there will be a PHP developers manual
> >    and I assume the streams API docs will be
> >    moved as part of it.  So the less we rely on
> >    them now the better.
> >
> > Also, I am unable to find this information in the appendix.
> >
> > Basically, ref.stream should hold its own and streams api
> > should only be an enhancement of knowledge for advanced
> > users, such as PHP source developers.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Philip
> >
> >
> >
> 
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