When developing web apps I keep the code for the server and the rest
separate and reload the rest on every request. No need for restarts at all
that way.

Unless you're actually fiddling with the actual server code, then it can't
be helped I suppose...


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Thorsten Jolitz <tjol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rowan Thorpe <ro...@rowanthorpe.com> writes:
>
> >> On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:22:14 +0200
> >> Thorsten Jolitz <tjol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ..[snip]..
> >> I ran into this problem when experimenting with the
> >> web-framework and my app got into a bad state. When restarting then,
> >> PicoLisp tells me something like 'Port is already used', so I tried
> >> to kill the still running (*) PicoLisp processes with a simple 'kill
> >> PID', but to no avail.
> >>
> >> [* are they still running? 'ps' shows them with a '?', and I
> >> shutted them down on the command-line, so they shouldn't. But somehow
> >> they still block the port, and the more I shut down, the more are
> >> shown by 'ps']
> >> ..[snip]..
> >
> > Sorry for asking the obvious question, but have you waited the couple of
> > minutes needed for the kernel (depending on which kernel) to eventually
> > clean orphaned ports itself? It *may* actually just be the port
> > remaining open because the owning process didn't cleanly shut it?: as
> > mentioned here http://superuser.com/a/127865
>
> Not obvious for me, obviously, but definitely the right question - no I
> did not wait, and I did not know I have to wait a couple of minutes.
>
> So thats probably the root of the problem, unrelated to PicoLisp. Though
> a bit of a hassle, since it takes away the huge advantage of PicoLisp's
> millisecond start-up time somehow, and shutting down a PicoLisp process
> and restart is not a prime option anymore if a couple of minutes waiting
> are involved.
>
> Thanks for the interesting link!
>
> --
> cheers,
> Thorsten
>
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