Hi all, I'll reply as a (not very active) devscripts maintainer.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 08:10:31PM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
> In my POV the ideal situation would be:
> - debian-goodies contains scripts which are useful for users and
>   developers comparably
> - devscripts contains scripts mostly related to development
> - devscripts could depend on debian-goodies if it uses tools from it,
>   but preferable not the other way round.

I generally agree with this POV. Just to be a bit more precise and sure
we all agree with the principles: with "developer" here we mean "Debian
developer".

Then, regarding mutual dependencies, I would say that debian-goodies
_must_ not have a dependency on devscripts: if the dependencies among
the two become mutual, than it would be pointless to have two different
packages in the first place.

> We could create a joined team to maintain debian-goodies and devscripts,
> either in two repositories where each of the team members would have
> commit access or in one repository (probably even better ;).

One of two repositories is a technical decision which is more related to
the actual VCS we use than to the decision about whether to join the
teams or not. (SCNR: we can move to git and have one repository for
devscripts and one for debian-goodies, owned by a common alioth group.)

> In the long run it would make sense to replace the crossings in
> debian-goodies with the tools which are similar with the tools
> from devscripts and in return remove them from devscripts (if the
> criterias above are met).

Absolutely.

> Just on a side note: I'm never sure if debian-goodies is a good name,
> because before I was told about it I never stumbled about it and for
> such a name I would never have searched.

It's a historical name a bit hard to change now, but surely we can
transition to a better name if we find one. The best guess that comes to
my mind is "debianutils", but is already taken (by an Essential) package
... how about debianutils-extra?

> And another side note to the other devscripts maintainers: Maybe
> we should invite Raphael to join our team? ;)

Sure!

Cheers.

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