Okay, some coordination happen on IRC on this front. This is the
official “Go!”, now that the ffmpeg/libraw1394/directfb mess is cleared

So, feel free to start uploading kde4 stuff to unstable, but please do
not upload koffice until poppler is done (not sure if a koffice upload
was planned, but just in case). Let me know if you need me to notify you
when that happens.

As always, please come by for anything you need. Also, I guess you’ll be
taking care of the kde4libs/alpha FTBFS prior to uploading the rest of

What’s exactly the difference between “brief and rough” and “less pain
over a longer period of time”, in terms of uploads? Brief and rough
sounds good to me, but I’d like to know what it entails!


--- Sune Vuorela [Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:50:29 +0100]:

> (please keep pkg-kde-talk in cc, but no need to keep me)

> Hi release team!

> We are as good as ready to push a new and better KDE into unstable at your 
> command.

> You basically have two choices. Brief and rough or less pain over a longer 
> period of time.
> The total breakages/pain is expected to be the same for both choices, so it 
> is 
> more like what fits the release team and its plans best.

> The plan is to change all parts of kde3 except the kde3 libs to their kde4 
> counterparts and some 3rd party things will break because they are plugins or 
> extensions to the kde3 versions without any plans for a kde4 version of the 
> plugin or extension.

> Currently, we look at breaking around 50-100 source packages, some will have 
> to be removed, some will have to be updated to newer versions and some will 
> have to have parts removed. Some of that work is already in progress, but 
> some 
> maintainers promises to fix it when it becomes broken.
> There is one unrelated piece of breakage, lurker, but the maintainer is aware 
> and thinking of solutions.

> So basically, dear release team, do you want it soft or rough - and when do 
> you want it?

> /Sune 

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