Package: systemd Version: 238-4 Hi, in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=873185 an old workaround was dropped because all NTP servers now ship Conflicts=systemd-timesyncd.service but in my tests I found that systemd in this case is still unreliable.
We end up with a NTP server (chrony, ntp, ...) and systemd-timesyncd both being enabled and systemd on startup randomly picking one of them. I filed systemd upstream https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8730 to get educated how one could control it or at some time there might be a way to express this added. But until then I wonder how we can make any guarantees which service is started. OTOH while trivial experiments trigger easily I haven't seen chrony to be knowcked out by systemd-timesyncd in real-life. Maybe there is a second safety mechanism I don't know yet? But if I'm right and this is just as unreliable as it is in my tests I wonder if we should take the old stop-gap measure back into systemd for now in Debian and Ubuntu. Note - LP Bug in ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/systemd/+bug/1764357 P.S. I was unsure, but think this is not a re-open of the old bug(s). So I decided for a new report and setting Michael (systemd / old bug) and Vincent (chrony) on CC. -- Christian Ehrhardt Software Engineer, Ubuntu Server Canonical Ltd
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