Vincent and all, About suffix "~bpo8+1+b1" you've mentioned, it would still not work in my case, because resulting package version would be lower than one in Jessie! Let me take a practical example:
Package xfce4-mixer: * Current source version: 1.10.3-1 in both Jessie and Stretch * Current binary version in jessie: 1.10.3-1 (with xfce4-panel 4.10 dependency) * Current binary version in stretch: 1.10.3-1+b1 (with xfce4-panel 4.12 dependency) * Hypothetical binary version in jessie-backports: 1.10.3-1[X]~bpo8+1[Y] (with backported xfce4-panel 4.12 dependency) My question is: where to put "+b1" in backported version? At position [X] or [Y]? Putting it in [Y] would result in a version number (1.10.3-1~bpo8+1+b1) lower than one in jessie (1.10.3-1). On the other hand, putting it at [X] would still result in a binary version (1.10.3-1+b1~bpo8+1) higher than one in jessie, but still lower than current one in stretch (1.10.3-1+b1). About maintaining the whole XFCE 4.12 tree in jessie-backports, I'll keep on maintaining my own builds in OBS, eventually writing some scripts to keep track of changes in stretch and automate building and uploading backported packages whenever necessary. If I feel comfortable with the process, I will volunteer myself for maintaing it in jessie-backports. In the mean time, I still really appreciate if at least lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter (maintained by the same "Debian Xfce Maintainers" team) could be in jessie-backports in short term. Honestly, I only need backported xfwm4 4.12 (to better handling CSD-enabled apps), but I'm afraid it requires a full XFCE tree rebuild against 4.12 libs. 2015-08-21 15:04 GMT-03:00 Yves-Alexis Perez <[email protected]>: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:02:10AM -0700, Vincent Cheng wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:26 AM, Laércio de Sousa > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > After investigating their current binary versions in stretch (I'm only > > > watching on their source versions until now, and I'm not aware about > binNMUs > > > before), I just realized that a "+b1~bop8+1" could be a good suffix for > > > those jessie packages that only need to be rebuilt against backported > new > > > libs. > > > > No, a "~bpo8+1" suffix is still correct (it'll always be strictly less > > than the version in stretch). If for whatever reason you need to > > binNMU packages in backports, you can file binNMU bugs against the > > release.debian.org pseudopackage (the resulting packages will have a > > suffix of "~bpo8+1+b1"). > > > > About backporting xfce 4.12 as a whole...have you discussed this with > > the Debian xfce team yet? The initial backport may be manageable, but > > is maintaining these backported packages for the entire lifetime of > > jessie (and keeping them up-to-date with stretch) feasible? Are you > > willing to handle all bug reports associated with these backported > > packages? > > Honestly, I'd really prefer people actually helping us with bugs and > stuff like that (first in unstable, and let it migrate to testing and > stable following the natural flow). And do stable uploads for things > really needed, if they exists. > > Regards, > -- > Yves-Alexis Perez > -- *Laércio de Sousa* *Orientador de Informática* *Escola Municipal "Professor Eulálio Gruppi"* *Rua Ismael da Silva Mello, 559, Mogi Moderno* *Mogi das Cruzes - SPCEP 08717-390* Telefone: (11) 4726-8313
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