I have found the Wayland lag culprit here
<https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=513593>.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 4:39 PM Alberto Salvia Novella <
[email protected]> wrote:

> There is also another major problem: high latency in games while using
> Nvidia Optimus graphics.
>
> For example, if my system has both nvidia-open-dkms and the optimus-manager
> profile.d
> <https://github.com/Askannz/optimus-manager/blob/master/profile.d/optimus-manager.sh>,
> then I run The Dark Mod <https://www.thedarkmod.com/> on both x11 and
> Wayland, if I move the cursor around I can VERY clearly perceive that the
> mouse latency on x11 is drastically lower.
>
> I need to bisect the culprit of this.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 12:23 PM Alberto Salvia Novella <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The main reason why on Zenned <https://zenned.gitlab.io/> I haven't yet
>> set Wayland as the default session is the following bug
>> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499256>.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 4:41 PM Alberto Salvia Novella <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> My feeling is that the schedule shall not be based on a timeline, but
>>> rather on when the technology is truly stable.
>>>
>>> Let me make a list of what is lacking right now on Wayland, and I will
>>> come back to you shortly.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 11:03 AM Martin Riethmayer <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 15.12.25 um 10:39 schrieb Ben Cooksley:
>>>> > On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 10:14 PM Martin Riethmayer <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> > Hi Martin,
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> >     6.7.6           2026-10-27
>>>> >     6.7.7           2027-01-26
>>>> >     6.7.8           2027-06-22
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > This sort of implies that we will have functional CI for the entire
>>>> way
>>>> > through to 6.7.8, which is much easier said than done.
>>>>
>>>> Just for clarification: Nothing here is set in stone, it's based on my
>>>> quick LO Calc sheet and the initial release date wrt to the 4-month
>>>> cycle, only. I'm not saying that this is the "best" way to go or that
>>>> this "should" be the schedule, it's only one option.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sort of aware of these CI issues (though not in detail, of course)
>>>> which is why I wanted to kick off a discussion on that schedule "early".
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     - I have not taken into consideration any release schedules of
>>>> >>     distributions
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > Given this is essentially planned to be an LTS release (given the
>>>> > support out to mid-2027) that is quite relevant here I'd say.
>>>>
>>>> I see the argument for this. Are there any distro maintainers on this
>>>> list, other than Rik Mills that could voice an opinion? Or is there a
>>>> better place to ask for distribution wishes wrt the schedule?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>

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