I would not prefer another top level repository for just issues. We do have

  1.  eclipse.platform<https://github.com/eclipse-platform/eclipse.platform>    
          for Platform
  2.  eclipse.jdt<https://github.com/eclipse-jdt/eclipse.jdt>                   
       for Jdt
  3.  equinox.framework<https://github.com/eclipse-equinox/equinox.framework>   
    for equinox
  4.  eclipse.pde.ui                   for pde

I believe this should be sufficient. Lets see how this goes.

Thanks
Sravan

From: platform-dev <platform-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> On Behalf Of Aleksandar 
Kurtakov
Sent: 30 March 2022 21:07
To: Eclipse platform general developers list. <platform-dev@eclipse.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [platform-dev] Intended Bug-Tracker for 
Platform-projects hosted on GitHub

I always have one question: Is anyone subscribing to triage things and keeping 
it in a manageable state?
If no one plans to do that it's better if users learn about project structure, 
question how we organize things and etc. so we start improving/reorganizing.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 5:25 PM S A 
<simeon.danailov.andr...@gmail.com<mailto:simeon.danailov.andr...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
+1 for a top level "empty" repo, that users are pointed to for reporting bugs. 
Listing 20+ repos and letting the user find the right one, just to create a bug 
report, won't be great.

Best regards,
Simeon

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 at 20:22, Dirk Steinkamp 
<dirk.steink...@gmx.de<mailto:dirk.steink...@gmx.de>> wrote:

Thanks, Hannes for clarifying the possiblity to transfer an issue. That's good 
to know.

Anyhow: I want to stress the user's perspective -- it's way to easy to get 
confused.

I just wanted to file a bug report and thought I might give github issues a 
try. But where to go? I tried the github search with various combinations of 
"eclipse ui", "eclipse platform", etc. -- which all turned up search results of 
other people's projects, but never a relevant eclipse project at the top. So I 
ended up posting it to bugzilla ...

Sorry, but from a "simple user's perspective" this is a great way to cut away 
the feedback loop to the users, make users give up, and turn away from eclipse 
...

There needs to be some guidance for the casual reporter of issues at an entry 
point that's easy to find.
PLUS: I like bugzilla's list of probably related bugs -- so I don't file a 
duplicate too easily.

(and maybe part of the confusion is that Eclipse is often used as synonym for 
"Eclipse IDE", not even realizing that "Eclipse IDE" should be the full name of 
the product, but understanding IDE simply as a descriptive term and taking 
"Eclipse" as the product name ... I know it's like saying "I use Microsoft for 
writing documents", but all developers I usually meet and talk to speak [and 
probably think] simply of "Eclipse" when they actually mean "Eclipse IDE"...)

Dirk
Am 26.03.2022 um 12:22 schrieb Hannes Wellmann:
It is possible to move issues between repositories on GitHub, see [1], and it 
is also possible to link issues in other repositories by mentioning them.

Although it is simpler for those that handle bugs to assign them to the correct 
repository directly, I agree that it can be difficult to find out which one the 
correct repo is, especially if one is not deeply involved into Eclipse 
development.
To help those people maybe it would be useful to create a repo at 
https://github.com/eclipse/ide<https://github.com/eclipse/ide> (or similar) 
that is de-facto empty and where users can report bugs for which they don't 
know the responsible project/repository for. The bugs could then be transferred 
to the correct repo by committers that can identify the responsible repository.

But I assume there is definitely the risk that managing such a common 
bug-tracker becomes quite a great task that consumes too many resources. So bug 
reports should be encouraged to only use it as last resort and there should be 
good documentation/guidelines for reporters to find the appropriated repo by 
them self.

[1] - 
https://docs.github.com/en/issues/tracking-your-work-with-issues/transferring-an-issue-to-another-repository<https://docs.github.com/en/issues/tracking-your-work-with-issues/transferring-an-issue-to-another-repository>


Gesendet: Samstag, 26. März 2022 um 11:07 Uhr
Von: "Dirk Steinkamp" <dirk.steink...@gmx.de><mailto:dirk.steink...@gmx.de>
An: "Eclipse platform general developers list." 
<platform-dev@eclipse.org><mailto:platform-dev@eclipse.org>
Betreff: Re: [platform-dev] Intended Bug-Tracker for Platform-projects hosted 
on GitHub

Speaking from someone who only recently made a first contribution to Eclipse, 
but has been using Eclipse for years and occasionally reported issues, I have 
to say that already the many existing project are simply confusing to pick from 
when a user simply wants to report something. The bugzilla seems to have the 
option to later (re)assign it to the correct subproject.

This doesn't get better with all the different eclipse-subprojects hosting 
their own github-projects with separate issue trackers, as you can't move 
issues from one github-project to the other, right? It's also lacking an 
integrated overview of issues that might be related, but affect different 
subprojects.

So I'd favour something that can provide overarching, integrating capabilities 
- be it bugzilla, or something else.

Dirk


Am 26.03.2022 um 09:42 schrieb Hannes Wellmann:
At the moment it is not clear to me (maybe I have missed something) if I should 
still use Bugzilla or instead the Github Issues of for Eclipse-projects that 
were moved to Github?
IIRC to was not the plan to shutdown the associated Bugzilla now, but does this 
also mean that bugs should still be reported there or should GH issues be used 
for that as soon as a project was moved?
At the moment I have the impression both is used, which is IMHO not ideal but 
probably hard to avoid in a transition phase.

Thanks,
Hannes




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