Le vendredi 31 mars 2006 à 10:19 +0200, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
> Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> > 
> >> Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
> > 
> >>> Short: security updates - the src.rpms are available!?;
> >>> binary-only CDs - they should include a note that sources are available
> >>> from mandriva (indirectly...).
> >> What difference with what we already do at
> >> http://plf.zarb.org/packages.php, "Genuine packages vs rebuilds" ?
> > 
> > This was not on my mirror. I was referring to GPL section 3 options b
> > and c. I also think the common practice is to distribute the sources
> > (the third option the GPL provides, item a in section 3).
> > 
> >>>> Looks like a silly pretext.
> >>>
> >>> I don't mind if you call me silly; when I take the GPL and look at my
> >>> PLF mirror I see that I don't comply at all wrt these packages. If I had
> >>> a public mandriva mirror as well there would not be a problem, but I
> >>> don't.
> >> GPL is intended to protect free software interest, by preventing
> >> unfriendly people to hide source from software they produce. Not to
> >> cause additional constraints to people distributing those software
> >> without modification. I fail to see any induced damage with our current
> >> practice...
> > 
> > It's the principle of equality (the "egalite" from the french state
> > motto, right?): why would you not have to follow the rules, just because
> > you think you're friendly? The "I'm friendly" part is subjective anyway:
> > a developer of GPLed software could disagree with you about that.
> I never saw we didn't had to follow the rule, rather than the rule is
> made for people producing new code. We don't add a line for those
> packages. We don't hide anything.
> 
> Basically, what you're saying is that someone that would pick up any
> binayr rpm on a ftp server and put in on its own web page would be
> infringing GPL. That seems a silly litteral interpretation of the text
> of the GPL, rather than complying with its intent.
> 
> Some further research from misc suggest than Debian people agree to your
> point of view:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/07/msg00332.html
> 
> However, FSF people seems to be less anal:
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCSourceAndBinaryOnDifferentSites
> "To make a reasonable effort to comply, you need to make a positive
> arrangement with the other site, and thus ensure that the source will be
> available there for as long as you keep the binaries available."
> 
> We dont have a formal signed agreement from mandriva here, but the fact
> that all our build directives are integrated into their packages is
> de-facto a technical agreement. And we don't intend to distribute
> packages longer than the distribution itself.

The specfile will be in cvs forever but the source tarball may disappear
before we build the new version :/
Maybe we should store the src.rpm when we rebuild for plf somewhere...

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