On Saturday 16 June 2007, Jose Jorge wrote:
> I agree to remove this plugins, as long as open source code allows
> us to play the concerned medias... PLF is about "let's make it easy
> to non-stallman users" . We need mass use of Mandriva OS to make it
> influent. 

Yeah, some of the weird things about 2007.1 (not that I want to 
complain about Mandriva on the PLF list but someone will ask, so: 
sound is either not present or needs OSS for myself and all but one 
of the home users I support, my tablet's touch screen is no longer 
recognized and I haven't figured out how to get it to be after 
installing the wacom packages and kernel modules and messing with X 
configs, the default versions of some apps like Pan and Gaim shipped 
as unstable -- and in some cases old and buggy -- beta versions, with 
the stable ones no longer available, resulting in support headaches 
for me, there seems to be no way to get rid of GNU broken-java so 
it's a hassle to run the majority of programs that require actual Sun 
java, and some java programs in the official repositories fall into 
that latter category) have already given me second thoughts about 
Mandriva for the first time in 8 years.

Having to install win32-codecs from a tarball on every user's system  
would definitely push me and my users back to Ubuntu, which sucked 
when it came preinstalled on my laptop but at least everything worked 
and it did have Automatix.  (Of course, as a US citizen I shouldn't 
technically be using either PLF or Automatix anyway, regardless of 
who owns what copyrights.)

On the other hand, having to package Alone in the Dark myself is an 
infinitely smaller hardship, which is why I recommended setting up a 
separate repository last week.

Rob
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