On 3/21/12 4:52 AM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote:

        * plone_devstart serves as a development start-up buildout, but
        eventually these changed should be merged to unified installer
        so that no separate "installer" for developers are needed. Even
        in the worst case we should ask people to run "cp
        development.cfg buildout.cfg" or similar. I don't see we have
        other barries besides by simply making the default buildout
        runnable without virtualenv (buildout is broken...). We know
        what must be done to accomplish this.


    We had that debate in the other thread, but there are other
    environment issues that trip people up (e.g. wrong Python, missing
    libraries) that we need to check too. Maybe buildout could check
    those (from an extension) of course.


We have an Unified Installer to take care of those issues and deploy a
working Python environment. If the installer doesn't care of those
issues then it is not working.


It does, but it also requires you to download and run the installer. plone-devstart (IIUC) is for folks familiar with Python that may be comfortable writing code and typing in code at the Python prompt, but that know absolutely zero about developing Plone (and all the Python packaging knowledge that goes with it.)

The installer handles the case of "get this running now".

plone-devstart is addressing (again IIUC) the case of "check my current environment, then let me start working from there".

I don't know if I agree with Martin on how big that sector is, but I agree it exists.


Alex






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