Hi all, It has been a long time since I’ve been to a PLUG meeting, but I used to be pretty active several years ago. I was frequently the only female in the group, and I did a few presentations, including one on software licenses that got a bit lively. I’m sure I learned more from that presentation than the audience did. I’m not a bit shy about doing presentations, so that helps. :)
I don’t know exactly what things are like now, but I will say that when I was active, I saw nothing but support from fellow PLUG members. And some awkwardness, but that’s just how a lot of us are. I’m not saying that discrimination doesn’t happen because I know how much it sucks to report a problem and not be believed, but it wasn’t part of my experience with PLUG. Michelle Lowman > On Dec 2, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Brian Cluff <[email protected]> wrote: > > The leadership cares very much but can't do anything about it if they don't > see it occur and they aren't told specifics by the people that are receiving > it. > > If someone in plug is being sexist to you, we need to know about it so that > we can do something about it. We _have_ talked about it in meetings, but I > find that often times the person that is supposedly doing the action might > not ever be aware they are doing it. > > Lisa pointed out that someone is feeling like he is purposely showing off his > wedding ring as being sexist. However I would point out that if you watch > the videos that I've taken of Hans that you will notice that he is Left > Handed and if simply pointing with his dominant hand, so it sounds like it's > a misunderstanding to me. > > He's the only person that I am aware of that has been named and is therefore > the only person that can be talked to. He's also the biggest proponent of > womens rights that I personally know. > > Brian Cluff > > On 12/02/2014 09:23 AM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: >> I have been laughed at about projects I am working on by one particular >> member, mocked, treated like I don't know my stuff, accused of >> threatening when that was an out and out lie. There are members there, >> Brian who are that way. There are members who are not. Women run from >> these meetings. I saw this at the last PLUG I attended. >> Maybe that's just the general culture, mock and criticize other members, >> act arrogant and rude. >> >> There are a few members who are not rude or bias. I'm not saying >> everyone is. However, leadership could care less. >> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Brian Cluff <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> It's true, there are a lot more men in PLUG than there are women, >> but that's just a reflection of the industry as a whole, and is >> something we would like to change. >> >> PLUG does not tolerate anybody being treated as anything but an >> equal. If anyone feels otherwise I would like to know about it >> immediately. >> >> Of course if someone does feel like they are being treated >> differently the first thing I would have them ask themselves is, was >> I actually being a asshole during the period I was feeling >> discriminated against. I think you will find that assholes tend to >> get ignored in PLUG and has nothing to do with gender. >> >> Brian Cluff >> >> On 12/02/2014 12:33 AM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: >> >> hans, >> >> I am sorry you cannot take a joke. >> Of course, sexual harassment is no joking matter. >> Accusations of this are quite serious. >> >> I never witnessed anything or experienced sexual harassment. >> >> Gender bias is quite obvious in your LUG. >> >> >> ------------------------------__--------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected].__org >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/__mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> <http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
