What is the trick? If I open 12 tabs on Chrome or FF both become
extremely slow, especially if I open Yahoo.com. This happens on both
Linux and Win10. I have a 4 core i5, 16G RAM, and an SSD. I seen to
recall that under Linux I checked my memory and I was not putting a dent
in it.
On 2017-09-06 13:06, Michael Butash wrote:
> I do run a lot of VM's, almost always at least a windoze vm for visio and
> crappy conferencing software, sometimes playing with firewall or other
> network appliances, sometimes linux monitoring system appliances I've built,
> etc. That and I tend to run a lot of tabs,
>
> so 16gb of ram usually just isn't enough from my last system. I just moved
> to 128gb of ram in my desktop as 32gb I'd depelete quick too.
>
> I certain didn't need a 1tb ssd, but the cost difference was marginal enough
> I said screw it. My last few laptops and desktops with 512gb of ssd is just
> fine for me.
>
> I've tried the approach of running a vmware cluster at home for that purpose
> with far more resources to run VM's in, but end of the day, the heat/power
> wasn't worth it vs. just adding some ram and running what I needed between my
> desktop and laptop. Plus vmware management is shite anymore related to
> vcenter/esx, so for my needs, virtualbox is just fine.
>
> Another big reason for the ram is chrom[e|ium] is a fsck'ing pig still. With
> my deskop usage, between chrome and vm's, it's not uncommon to run around
> 50-60gb of ram all the time. I got tired of hitting EOM's and weird lag
> across the board as memory usage would fluctuate greatly in desktop use.
>
> -mb
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:26 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> What are you doing that requires a top of the line CPU, 32G RAM, and a 1T
> SSD?
>
> I'm a developer and am seeing a trend toward the cloud. PhpStorm provides
> for editing directly on the dev server, GIT for moving code onto the staging
> server and then onto the production server. I'm moving to Plesk that allows
> me to run PHP 5.6 for older code and PHP 7 for newer code, while running
> Ubuntu 16.04lts. Both versions of PHP on the same VPS.
>
> Given that a baseline laptop with decent graphics, 8G RAM, and a 128G SSD
> should be enough.
>
> Unless one is running many local virtual machines, doing some serious video
> or image work, or doing lots of compiling... I am think the cloud and thin
> client hardware is the way to go.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> On 2017-09-06 10:42, Michael Butash wrote:
> Yup, the precision 3000/5000 is almost a direct clone of the xps13/15, just
> with different graphics (geforce vs. quadro), wifi (atheros vs. intel), and
> proc (xeon options). Nothing else really different I could tell other than
> price. I went with the xps as consumer coupons go higher than precision
> discounts.
>
> I usually just shop bensbargains.com [1] or dealnews, wait for a dell outlet
> refurb coupon to go 35-40% around a holiday, and score a laptop then for some
> steep savings. I got this xps15 loaded with the 4k display, nvidia gpu, 32gb
> ram, 1tb ssd for $1950 out the door. Worst part of buying from dell is sales
> tax. :(
>
> -mb
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Partington <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I have been seeing Ubuntu offered on their precision mobile workstations...
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Carruth, Rusty <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Actually, comparing the Alienware that I bought vs a very similar one at
> System 76:
>
> Alienware: 16G RAM, 4K display, 1T rotating drive, 128G SSD, I7-7700: List
> $2066, paid $1536
>
> System76: 16G RAM, 1080P, 2T rotating drive, 512G SSD, I7-7700: list
> under $1500.
>
> So, double the rotator size, 4x the SSD size, and remove the 4K display - and
> save around $500. I'd say 76 isn't bad, price-wise. The primary reason I
> got the alien was because of the 4K and similar price (I did a side-by-side
> comparison at the store. 4K really is better, and when I got home and booted
> Linux on it - whoa!). (Don't know which video card they each had - I'm not
> going to be doing gaming (much?) so don't care that much... I think)
>
> Unfortunately, live booting the Mint 17.3 DVD resulted in no Ethernet or
> WiFi. I'm downloading 18.2 now to see if that's better, as a google search
> seems to imply it is. But the display! Oh, my goodness!
>
> Oh, by the way - the alienware has only ONE 'standard' disk slot, but 3, yes
> THREE M.2 slots - one very short, the other 2 full-length. And only 2 RAM
> slots. Which is too bad - my Lenovo for work (17" also) has 2 standard slots
> and 2 M.2 slots (and 4 RAM slots) - I mean, its not like they don't have
> ROOM, for goodness sake! But then, the Lenovo was almost $3000. Of course,
> it had a 1TB SSD as well as 16G of ram and the TOP video card...
>
> FROM: PLUG-discuss [mailto:[email protected]] ON BEHALF
> OF Michael
> SENT: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 7:15 PM
> TO: Main PLUG discussion list
> SUBJECT: Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!
>
> system76 is expensive too
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Phil Waclawski <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I have a laptop from zareason that I've used for several years. It was a
> touch pricey, but still powerful enough to do a lot. They also will install
> different flavors of linux for you.
>
> Phil Waclawski
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Mark Phillips <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Rusty,
>
> Did you check out System 76 laptops? They come with Ubuntu installed, but I
> think you can ask for any distro. I have been using their hardware for a
> couple of years, and it is flawless.
>
> Mark
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Michael Butash <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I just went through this with a new dell, where I used the local windoze
> tools to make a usb backup imagine with their software to a 16gb drive, and
> just tossed it in a drawer if I ever need to restore things. That supposedly
> restores their recovery partitions and windoze itself, which should be
> everything...
>
> I'd not put faith in some tier 1 rep telling you linux voids the warranty.
> It was probably one of those "What is linux? Yeah, don't do that." sort of
> comments ignorant agents might spew, but otherwise shouldn't matter. If you
> restore the disk and bios to prior function, they should be none the wiser
> anyways.
>
> -mb
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:37 AM, irb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> * Carruth, Rusty (aka [email protected]) used 15K on Tue, 05 Sep 2017
> at 17:21 +0000 to say:
>>
>> (By the way - does anyone remember the 'windows refund day' many years back?
>> System vendors refused to honor the refund clause stated in the EULA (or
>> whatever it was), claiming that Microsoft had to honor it, and Micro$oft
>> claimed that it was the responsibility of the system vendors (which, indeed,
>> it was). But as far as I know, NOBODY got their refund.... Again, where's
>> the lawyers????)
>
> I remember that, as part of BALUG many years ago. I never got a refund and
> Microsoft tried to turn it to their advantage by setting up a booth. I think
> there's a documentary out there somewhere.
>
> When dealing with warranty crap from laptop vendors I just take an image of
> the drive. If I have to send it in I don't include the drive anyway, and I've
> never been given grief over it. Still, having an original hardware backup
> like that is kinda cool.
>
> /i.
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