well, that is possible. taking the audio and streaming it to a specific location is definitely within the realm of possibility.
still, wouldn't it be easier to use a vpn along with 2 other forms of encryption to get the same result? -eric from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Too many secrets Dept. On Dec 1, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Carruth, Rusty wrote: > Which means that the ‘out of band’ cannot get ‘out of your subnet’, and > probably won’t even get ‘past your Ethernet hub/switch/router/whatever’ into > which the other end of your Ethernet cable is plugged. > > Probably, unless you send it ‘loud enough’ to overwhelm the switch and get > bleedthrough to the other lines on the switch. But I’d be surprised if you > could get it past the NEXT switch without damage to the first one. > > Just guessing, though. Anybody have some switches they don’t mind destroying > for a little test? ;-) > > > (This reminds me a little bit of the ‘rumor’ of a ‘flashing eye’ that a > hacker could manage to display on the system console of a UNIVAC 1110 series > computer if they knew the secret incantations (and more than one was > required, let me tell you!). > > Turns out, that in this case, the rumor was true, just not in the way we’d > heard it.) > > Perhaps they’re putting digitized DTMF into the packet and sending it to a > special port on the other end? (you know, port 80 is used for http, etc). > > Rusty > > From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Eric Oyen > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 11:52 AM > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: Dtmf over rj45 > > the kernel of truth is that you can use cat-x cable to do this, but any > ethernet switches in the line will either interrupt completely or filter out > the extraneous data as noise. In either case, your "out of band" > transmissions will be eaten by the first switch they come across. > > -eric > from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, the "you can't get from > here to there" dept. > > On Dec 1, 2017, at 8:09 AM, Aaron Jones wrote: > > > Not sure myself honestly. The guy was using buzz words like “out of band > transmission” and claiming they could use dtmf and the intel me to send > “untraceable” data without the use of IP. > > I am trying to be objective about it but it seems like it wouldn’t be an > effective method of getting data out of a network. > > So potentially there is a kernel (heh) of truth in there. Who knows right now > I guess. > > Thanks, > Aaron > > On Dec 1, 2017, at 7:38 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Steve is right you can use RJ45 to transmit. The signal but Ethernet switch > are expecting Ethernet frames. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 1, 2017, at 7:18 AM, Stephen Partington <[email protected]> wrote: > > Are you talking about embedding this sort of functional noise into a line > being used by ethernet? and yes most quality switches would try to clean up > the noise in order to secure the data unless it just created enough of an > interruption to just disrupt the connection as a whole. > > RJ45 is a socket type so you can wire it to do whatever you want. you can use > cat 4,5,6 cable to transport anything you want. I know multiple sites that > wired ethernet cable for POTS just because it gave them the ability to do a > number of things based on need. > > On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Aaron Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > Any one have any experience with dtmf (beeps and boops over phone) but using > rj45 instead of rj11? > > I viewed a claim that the intel me can produce dtmf instructions that will be > regarded as noise by tools like wireshark and can be used to transfer things > like encryption keys surreptitiously over the net without being seen by > monitoring tools. > > Essentially data is hidden in sight as noise on the line and picked up > somewhere else. > > Rj11 phone line can do this. But can it be done with rj45? Wouldn’t the first > switch it hit just smooth noise? > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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