thanks friend. I guess I will buy a new machine. On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 11:22 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <[email protected]> wrote: > > Install psensor and watch if something is getting hot consistently. I did > this a lot trying to figure out what was causing me grief. > > This is where your friend said "quit whining and go buy a new pc". You can > chase weird instability and countless hours spent in doing so, or you just > cut your losses and buy something with a warranty. Swap parts if it remains > unstable, or get weary enough to move on. At some point time is money, and > you need to move on, at least it is for folks that make money doing this for > a living. > > I like to tinker, but not to the point I wake up cursing the damn thing. > Reason my desktop is sitting powered off at the moment and i use my laptop. > > -mb > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:50 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> there is a fan on it and it maxes at 73 with the blue kitty in glmark2 >> but usually stays below 68 >> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:48 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Hows the temperature of your video card? Does it have a fan on it? >> > >> > Brian >> > >> > On 7/16/20 1:41 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > >> > >> > Might the problem still be the he >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:37 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> 68C under load is good. 80C+ idle is bad. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> lets get back to heat... last time I was running glx (with the horse >> >>> and various other pictures) and watch, and stress ng the temp was like >> >>> 68. I don't think that is too bad. >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:19 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > Looks like your drive probably isn't the problem. >> >>> > >> >>> > Brian Cluff >> >>> > >> >>> > On 7/16/20 11:54 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >>> > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:37 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss >> >>> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > >> Also check the health of your hard drive with smartctl. I've hard >> >>> > >> systems freeze on me because my hard drive was dying that then >> >>> > >> appear to >> >>> > >> work again for a while after a reboot. Basically your drive starts >> >>> > >> throwing errors and eventually the system remounts it as read only >> >>> > >> and >> >>> > >> your system eventually freaks out and freezes because it can't >> >>> > >> write to >> >>> > >> the drive anymore. >> >>> > > I sure hope this is the problem. It'll give me an excuse to put an >> >>> > > ssd >> >>> > > in the machine. >> >>> > > This is from live media boot. I'll see if I can freeze the system >> >>> > > again.... it did when I tried it before but it hasn't frozen for a >> >>> > > couple of days now. >> >>> > > sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda >> >>> > > smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [x86_64-linux-5.4.0-26-generic] (local >> >>> > > build) >> >>> > > Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, >> >>> > > www.smartmontools.org >> >>> > > >> >>> > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === >> >>> > > Model Family: Western Digital Caviar Blue (SATA) >> >>> > > Device Model: WDC WD3200AAKS-75L9A0 >> >>> > > Serial Number: WD-WMAV2S110171 >> >>> > > LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 057775228 >> >>> > > Firmware Version: 02.03E02 >> >>> > > User Capacity: 320,072,933,376 bytes [320 GB] >> >>> > > Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical >> >>> > > Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] >> >>> > > ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated) >> >>> > > SATA Version is: SATA 2.5, 3.0 Gb/s >> >>> > > Local Time is: Thu Jul 16 18:33:20 2020 UTC >> >>> > > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. >> >>> > > SMART support is: Enabled >> >>> > > >> >>> > > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === >> >>> > > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED >> >>> > > >> >>> > > General SMART Values: >> >>> > > Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection >> >>> > > activity >> >>> > > was suspended by an interrupting command from >> >>> > > host. >> >>> > > Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. >> >>> > > Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test >> >>> > > routine completed >> >>> > > without error or no self-test has ever >> >>> > > been run. >> >>> > > Total time to complete Offline >> >>> > > data collection: ( 6000) seconds. >> >>> > > Offline data collection >> >>> > > capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. >> >>> > > Auto Offline data collection on/off support. >> >>> > > Suspend Offline collection upon new >> >>> > > command. >> >>> > > Offline surface scan supported. >> >>> > > Self-test supported. >> >>> > > Conveyance Self-test supported. >> >>> > > Selective Self-test supported. >> >>> > > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before >> >>> > > entering >> >>> > > power-saving mode. >> >>> > > Supports SMART auto save timer. >> >>> > > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. >> >>> > > General Purpose Logging supported. >> >>> > > Short self-test routine >> >>> > > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. >> >>> > > Extended self-test routine >> >>> > > recommended polling time: ( 73) minutes. >> >>> > > Conveyance self-test routine >> >>> > > recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes. >> >>> > > SCT capabilities: (0x3037) SCT Status supported. >> >>> > > SCT Feature Control supported. >> >>> > > SCT Data Table supported. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 >> >>> > > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: >> >>> > > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE >> >>> > > UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE >> >>> > > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail >> >>> > > Always - 0 >> >>> > > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 138 133 021 Pre-fail >> >>> > > Always - 4075 >> >>> > > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 089 089 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 11090 >> >>> > > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail >> >>> > > Always - 0 >> >>> > > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 100 253 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 0 >> >>> > > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 019 019 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 59593 >> >>> > > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 0 >> >>> > > 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 0 >> >>> > > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 2282 >> >>> > > 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 199 199 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 1044 >> >>> > > 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 197 197 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 11090 >> >>> > > 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 105 080 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 38 >> >>> > > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 0 >> >>> > > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 0 >> >>> > > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Offline - 0 >> >>> > > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 0 >> >>> > > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Offline - 0 >> >>> > > 240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0032 024 024 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 55990 >> >>> > > 241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 78243499218 >> >>> > > 242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age >> >>> > > Always - 174621575474 >> >>> > > >> >>> > > SMART Error Log Version: 1 >> >>> > > No Errors Logged >> >>> > > >> >>> > > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 >> >>> > > Num Test_Description Status Remaining >> >>> > > LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error >> >>> > > # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 14352 >> >>> > > - >> >>> > > # 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 >> >>> > > - >> >>> > > >> >>> > > SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 >> >>> > > SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS >> >>> > > 1 0 0 Not_testing >> >>> > > 2 0 0 Not_testing >> >>> > > 3 0 0 Not_testing >> >>> > > 4 0 0 Not_testing >> >>> > > 5 0 0 Not_testing >> >>> > > Selective self-test flags (0x0): >> >>> > > After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. >> >>> > > If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute >> >>> > > delay. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Well, I am running glmark2, watch, and stress-ng for about (one round >> >>> > > of glmark2) with no freeze. all from live media >> >>> > > -- >> >>> > > :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >>> > > --------------------------------------------------- >> >>> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> >>> > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >>> > > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >>> > >> >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >> >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - 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