The Edgerouter Lite will also run OpenBSD, even has encryption hardware boost available for VPN(but no WiFi). Ubiquiti just (~20200705) EOLd the UniFi-Video product to move folks into a newer product(done badly, hardware drop etc*), but if you don't use UbiFi-Video then no problem...
*signs of problems to come? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23755350 On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:59 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have yet to run them in a proper mesh, but the 2.4 to 5 handover is really > smooth. > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:58 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> How well does Ubiquiti handle things like dynamic channel balancing >> (figuring out what ap should run on non-overlapping channels), band steering >> (moving 2.4ghz clients to 5ghz), and roaming features? >> >> Having deployed Cisco/Aruba/Arista/Mist/Aerohive/Meraki they tend to do >> this, but need some orchestration, which I ass-u-me Ubiquiti *should*, but >> wondering how much tweaking they allow on the RF side. >> >> -mb >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 7:55 AM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I second the use of Ubiquiti devices, specifically UniFi. While the >>> management interface is proprietary, you can run it in Docker or as I do on >>> Debian in a virtual machine. It will automatically discover all Ubiquiti >>> UniFi devices on the network and allow you to configure them all through >>> the same interface with the same or different configuration as the rest. >>> Updates and whatnot all happen through the same interface and makes >>> managing many of them a breeze; for instance, want to change your wifi >>> password? Update it in one place and all of your access points pull in that >>> change. >>> >>> They're not necessarily that expensive either; you can get the UniFi >>> AC-Lite's on Amazon for $89 each; I have 6 of those and one nano HD >>> scattered throughout my house and I have yet to roam to a spot that does >>> not have excellent wifi coverage. >>> >>> They're also all powered via POE so if you're able to run ethernet to all >>> of them and plug them into a POE switch then you don't have to worry about >>> a mess of wires. >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> >>> I have been using Ubiquiti for the last few years. Their edge devices have >>> been really solid, and the AP I have has been super stable. All the >>> management software is free as long as you are willing to set up some >>> containers or vm's which in my mind is rather nice. >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 5:11 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> A lot of the consumer "mesh" products I find are pretty janky after review >>> or use. Not tried Eero, but I did try Samsung mesh AP's for a bit, and >>> found them mostly inept. I considered the google units, but didn't want >>> them uploading everything I do back to google. >>> >>> The term "mesh" tends to imply remote units are NOT wired, and I need both >>> ideally. Dealing with a number of wired AP's usually requires some level >>> of "controller" to orchestrate them, but consumer stuff just doesn't seem >>> to get how this "should" work... >>> >>> I got the Samsungs a few years ago for the "SmartThings" hub with zwave >>> integrated, but their wireless was terrible, and only the root AP did >>> zwave, which I thought would be more distributed across my house. >>> Apparently whoever developed samsung's wireless had no idea how wireless >>> works, and would put my 2.4ghz network running most often on channel 5, all >>> 4 of them, which if you know anything about wireless, you just don't do >>> that. You always use channel 1, 6, or 11, really only channels you should >>> ever use in 2.4ghz. Not sure how common this is among "consumer" products. >>> I crap-canned these after about a year as wireless was terrible at 2.4ghz >>> and even 5ghz was pretty wack as they seemed to think using the same >>> channel was a great idea. Hopefully that person at samsung got fired. >>> >>> Prior to that, I ran a number of wired Cisco AP's (4-5) around my house >>> using a Cisco wireless controller appliance for them, which I installed a >>> lot of across enterprises. Any enterprise solution you can configure to >>> use the right channels, and introduce some channel avoidance between them >>> for proper wireless channel distribution. In the 2.4ghz range, with only 3 >>> usable channels (all of which are used by all your neighbors), you're >>> mostly screwed, but at least at 5ghz should be ok if they adjust/avoid used >>> channels, and you get some features like band steering to "influence" >>> devices to move from 2.4 to 5ghz if they behave right. Consumer stuff just >>> doesn't seem to do these features sadly, but good thing you can usually buy >>> old enterprise kit cheap on ebay. >>> >>> I now run a single Arista enterprise AP that does a well enough job of >>> covering my house for my purposes. I also have some Fortinet AP's wired in >>> with my Fortigate firewall as a controller I test with that work both wired >>> and wireless, but use a different SSID for those. I mostly use the Arista >>> for my primary SSID as it's an 802.1ax AP, but the Fortinets work in full >>> mesh (non-wired) using 5ghz for backhaul or as individually wired ap's >>> orchestrated via my Fortigate ala my prior Cisco's, and Arista via the >>> "cloud". >>> >>> I have heard good things about Ubiquiti, but no experience thus far. I >>> almost bought into some, but figured I'd screw with the Fortinet and Arista >>> kit as I work with both lots, and found it best staying with enterprise kit >>> I can granularly control understanding how wireless "should" work. I'd be >>> curious to know how well Ubiuquiti deals with dynamic channel selection, >>> band-steering, and other "enterprise" features consumer crap sorely misses >>> on. >>> >>> -mb >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 12:09 PM Mark Phillips via PLUG-discuss >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I need to upgrade my home wifi network with a high speed mesh network >>> (primarily for better phone coverage in my house - I make a lot of video >>> calls to the UK). I have Cox Gigablast on my wired network. The issue I am >>> running into is that the "base" unit of the eero units and other vendors' >>> boxes have to connect to either (1) the cable model or (2) the router and >>> not the switch. My modem, router, and switch are all in a cabinet above my >>> desk in the office, so (1) I don't need wifi in the office and (2) I don't >>> relish the thought of having a wifi transmitter sitting 3 feet from my head >>> 12 hours a day. I want to connect the wifi boxes to my wired network in a >>> couple of different rooms away from the office. Eero (and other vendors) >>> says the "base" unit has to act as a gateway (my router does that now), so >>> it cannot be after the switch. Any suggestions on how I can get a high >>> speed mesh network in my house and not take a daily showert in 2+ GHz >>> radiation? I also want to use the wired network as the backhaul channel. >>> >>> Please don't start a discussion on the health effects of wifi radiation. >>> Just assume I am so unscientific and superstitious that I believe in wifi >>> gremlins and I don't want them invading my head.;) >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Mark >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
