Ted's article remains the gold standard even as it is now a couple years old. https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/OpenBSD-on-ERL
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:59 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am now very curious as to the benefits of running OpenBSD vs the Customer > Linux that ERLite uses. (goes to do internet reading) > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:36 AM Ed via PLUG-discuss > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The Edgerouter Lite will also run OpenBSD, even has encryption >> hardware boost available for VPN(but no WiFi). >> Ubiquiti just (~20200705) EOLd the UniFi-Video product to move folks >> into a newer product(done badly, hardware drop etc*), but if you don't >> use UbiFi-Video then no problem... >> >> *signs of problems to come? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23755350 >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:59 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > I have yet to run them in a proper mesh, but the 2.4 to 5 handover is >> > really smooth. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:58 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> How well does Ubiquiti handle things like dynamic channel balancing >> >> (figuring out what ap should run on non-overlapping channels), band >> >> steering (moving 2.4ghz clients to 5ghz), and roaming features? >> >> >> >> Having deployed Cisco/Aruba/Arista/Mist/Aerohive/Meraki they tend to do >> >> this, but need some orchestration, which I ass-u-me Ubiquiti *should*, >> >> but wondering how much tweaking they allow on the RF side. >> >> >> >> -mb >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 7:55 AM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I second the use of Ubiquiti devices, specifically UniFi. While the >> >>> management interface is proprietary, you can run it in Docker or as I do >> >>> on Debian in a virtual machine. It will automatically discover all >> >>> Ubiquiti UniFi devices on the network and allow you to configure them >> >>> all through the same interface with the same or different configuration >> >>> as the rest. Updates and whatnot all happen through the same interface >> >>> and makes managing many of them a breeze; for instance, want to change >> >>> your wifi password? Update it in one place and all of your access points >> >>> pull in that change. >> >>> >> >>> They're not necessarily that expensive either; you can get the UniFi >> >>> AC-Lite's on Amazon for $89 each; I have 6 of those and one nano HD >> >>> scattered throughout my house and I have yet to roam to a spot that does >> >>> not have excellent wifi coverage. >> >>> >> >>> They're also all powered via POE so if you're able to run ethernet to >> >>> all of them and plug them into a POE switch then you don't have to worry >> >>> about a mess of wires. >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I have been using Ubiquiti for the last few years. Their edge devices >> >>> have been really solid, and the AP I have has been super stable. All the >> >>> management software is free as long as you are willing to set up some >> >>> containers or vm's which in my mind is rather nice. >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 5:11 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> A lot of the consumer "mesh" products I find are pretty janky after >> >>> review or use. Not tried Eero, but I did try Samsung mesh AP's for a >> >>> bit, and found them mostly inept. I considered the google units, but >> >>> didn't want them uploading everything I do back to google. >> >>> >> >>> The term "mesh" tends to imply remote units are NOT wired, and I need >> >>> both ideally. Dealing with a number of wired AP's usually requires some >> >>> level of "controller" to orchestrate them, but consumer stuff just >> >>> doesn't seem to get how this "should" work... >> >>> >> >>> I got the Samsungs a few years ago for the "SmartThings" hub with zwave >> >>> integrated, but their wireless was terrible, and only the root AP did >> >>> zwave, which I thought would be more distributed across my house. >> >>> Apparently whoever developed samsung's wireless had no idea how wireless >> >>> works, and would put my 2.4ghz network running most often on channel 5, >> >>> all 4 of them, which if you know anything about wireless, you just don't >> >>> do that. You always use channel 1, 6, or 11, really only channels you >> >>> should ever use in 2.4ghz. Not sure how common this is among "consumer" >> >>> products. I crap-canned these after about a year as wireless was >> >>> terrible at 2.4ghz and even 5ghz was pretty wack as they seemed to think >> >>> using the same channel was a great idea. Hopefully that person at >> >>> samsung got fired. >> >>> >> >>> Prior to that, I ran a number of wired Cisco AP's (4-5) around my house >> >>> using a Cisco wireless controller appliance for them, which I installed >> >>> a lot of across enterprises. Any enterprise solution you can configure >> >>> to use the right channels, and introduce some channel avoidance between >> >>> them for proper wireless channel distribution. In the 2.4ghz range, >> >>> with only 3 usable channels (all of which are used by all your >> >>> neighbors), you're mostly screwed, but at least at 5ghz should be ok if >> >>> they adjust/avoid used channels, and you get some features like band >> >>> steering to "influence" devices to move from 2.4 to 5ghz if they behave >> >>> right. Consumer stuff just doesn't seem to do these features sadly, but >> >>> good thing you can usually buy old enterprise kit cheap on ebay. >> >>> >> >>> I now run a single Arista enterprise AP that does a well enough job of >> >>> covering my house for my purposes. I also have some Fortinet AP's wired >> >>> in with my Fortigate firewall as a controller I test with that work both >> >>> wired and wireless, but use a different SSID for those. I mostly use >> >>> the Arista for my primary SSID as it's an 802.1ax AP, but the Fortinets >> >>> work in full mesh (non-wired) using 5ghz for backhaul or as individually >> >>> wired ap's orchestrated via my Fortigate ala my prior Cisco's, and >> >>> Arista via the "cloud". >> >>> >> >>> I have heard good things about Ubiquiti, but no experience thus far. I >> >>> almost bought into some, but figured I'd screw with the Fortinet and >> >>> Arista kit as I work with both lots, and found it best staying with >> >>> enterprise kit I can granularly control understanding how wireless >> >>> "should" work. I'd be curious to know how well Ubiuquiti deals with >> >>> dynamic channel selection, band-steering, and other "enterprise" >> >>> features consumer crap sorely misses on. >> >>> >> >>> -mb >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 12:09 PM Mark Phillips via PLUG-discuss >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I need to upgrade my home wifi network with a high speed mesh network >> >>> (primarily for better phone coverage in my house - I make a lot of video >> >>> calls to the UK). I have Cox Gigablast on my wired network. The issue I >> >>> am running into is that the "base" unit of the eero units and other >> >>> vendors' boxes have to connect to either (1) the cable model or (2) the >> >>> router and not the switch. My modem, router, and switch are all in a >> >>> cabinet above my desk in the office, so (1) I don't need wifi in the >> >>> office and (2) I don't relish the thought of having a wifi transmitter >> >>> sitting 3 feet from my head 12 hours a day. I want to connect the wifi >> >>> boxes to my wired network in a couple of different rooms away from the >> >>> office. Eero (and other vendors) says the "base" unit has to act as a >> >>> gateway (my router does that now), so it cannot be after the switch. Any >> >>> suggestions on how I can get a high speed mesh network in my house and >> >>> not take a daily showert in 2+ GHz radiation? I also want to use the >> >>> wired network as the backhaul channel. >> >>> >> >>> Please don't start a discussion on the health effects of wifi radiation. >> >>> Just assume I am so unscientific and superstitious that I believe in >> >>> wifi gremlins and I don't want them invading my head.;) >> >>> >> >>> Thanks! >> >>> >> >>> Mark >> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >>> >> >>> Stephen >> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> > >> > Stephen >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
