Yes, I was thinking about getting an ASA, but I like my gigabit 1000BaseT 
connections, L2 vlan, VPN's, and I think you are correct that optimally, a fast 
machine with 4 ethernet cards is going to be the direct solution in line before 
that silly "LinkSys" arm processor IPS.

I used to build custom linux firewalls in 1995 and drop them in for businesses 
with a 2400 cisco, and I have built a few since (azwsx.com) so I think I will 
take your advice - I have a fresh install FreeBSD box right here, and a couple 
extra cards.    

Thanks for the great suggestion!

Obnosis | (503)754-4452




PLUG Linux Security Labs 2nd Saturday Each mo...@noon - 3PM

> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:13:32 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: OT? Linux-based trojans now targeting WRT and other linux-based  
> routers
> 
> Lisa Kachold wrote:
> > Well, the sad fact is that _any_ machine will kick over and barf it's guts 
> > under distributed attacks; it just depends on what it does after the green 
> > slime clears..
> > Also, it really helps if you run one that won't take WRT, or only runs on 
> > an arm, with small memory therefore they aren't too hot to pwn you.  
> > Linksys put out the source, whereupon I built my own, and played with the 
> > features; you know kiddies are doing this also.  
> >
> > Course, if you have a WRT-able router, it's a good idea to set it up as a 
> > small linux system, but you have to know how to work it; starting by 
> > iptable deny all of china is a good start.
> > I have had mine owned regularly; I just flash it again.  Mine is easy to 
> > determine, since it suddenly starts showing AIM ports open.  Once they 
> > target you successfully, they will insidiously continue to keep track of 
> > you; rather like trophy hunting.
> > I could have done a complete defcon presentation on various routers by this 
> > time.  
> > That's why I always suggest to everyone, if you see something strange, you 
> > see something strange, report it, complain, study it, rather than 
> > continuing to agree with everyone in denial about the sad state of security.
> > Obnosis | (503)754-4452
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PLUG Linux Security Labs 2nd Saturday Each mo...@noon - 3PM
> >   
> Lisa (and others),
> I don't tend to generally trust the "commercial grade" devices 
> available. they can't handle what I do with my home connection on a 
> daily basis
> (and the last thing I want is some script kiddie pwning my router). I 
> use OpenBSD here as my firewall machine (I have both a hardware version
> and vmware). I tend to keep close track on these and so far, neither 
> have been "pwned" after nearly 5 years of continuous use. I used to use a
> linux firewall before that, but had problems with rootkits.
> 
> Even with this, it still doesn't hurt to have a whole bevy of security 
> tools at hand for "just in case" (like windows, linux, OS X, etc).
> 
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