Join us at UAT.edu as we build and play with Firewall ISO's in old boxen with 
network cards.

Just imagine the script kiddies surprise when your new Firewall retaliates with 
a storm of SYN packets automagically rather than roll over like your Linksys or 
Netgear did?

Imagine being able to check snort logs and dump a big list of IPs directly to a 
deny file without having to type them all into teensy little forms like on the 
http://192.168.1.1/filters.htm screen!

Addicted to the LinkSys/Netgear Wireless, or like the fast ethernet ports and 
pretty blue and white LinkSys interface for setting up VPN's?

You can set that device in place on the INSIDE of your Firewall of China!

See you there!

Obnosis | (503)754-4452




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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: OT? Linux-based trojans now targeting WRT and other linux-based    
routers
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:09:13 +0000








Yes, I was thinking about getting an ASA, but I like my gigabit 1000BaseT 
connections, L2 vlan, VPN's, and I think you are correct that optimally, a fast 
machine with 4 ethernet cards is going to be the direct solution in line before 
that silly "LinkSys" arm processor IPS.

I used to build custom linux firewalls in 1995 and drop them in for businesses 
with a 2400 cisco, and I have built a few since (azwsx.com) so I think I will 
take your advice - I have a fresh install FreeBSD box right here, and a couple 
extra cards.    

Thanks for the great suggestion!

Obnosis | (503)754-4452




PLUG Linux Security Labs 2nd Saturday Each mo...@noon - 3PM

> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:13:32 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: OT? Linux-based trojans now targeting WRT and other linux-based  
> routers
> 
> Lisa Kachold wrote:
> > Well, the sad fact is that _any_ machine will kick over and barf it's guts 
> > under distributed attacks; it just depends on what it does after the green 
> > slime clears..
> > Also, it really helps if you run one that won't take WRT, or only runs on 
> > an arm, with small memory therefore they aren't too hot to pwn you.  
> > Linksys put out the source, whereupon I built my own, and played with the 
> > features; you know kiddies are doing this also.  
> >
> > Course, if you have a WRT-able router, it's a good idea to set it up as a 
> > small linux system, but you have to know how to work it; starting by 
> > iptable deny all of china is a good start.
> > I have had mine owned regularly; I just flash it again.  Mine is easy to 
> > determine, since it suddenly starts showing AIM ports open.  Once they 
> > target you successfully, they will insidiously continue to keep track of 
> > you; rather like trophy hunting.
> > I could have done a complete defcon presentation on various routers by this 
> > time.  
> > That's why I always suggest to everyone, if you see something strange, you 
> > see something strange, report it, complain, study it, rather than 
> > continuing to agree with everyone in denial about the sad state of security.
> > Obnosis | (503)754-4452
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PLUG Linux Security Labs 2nd Saturday Each mo...@noon - 3PM
> >   
> Lisa (and others),
> I don't tend to generally trust the "commercial grade" devices 
> available. they can't handle what I do with my home connection on a 
> daily basis
> (and the last thing I want is some script kiddie pwning my router). I 
> use OpenBSD here as my firewall machine (I have both a hardware version
> and vmware). I tend to keep close track on these and so far, neither 
> have been "pwned" after nearly 5 years of continuous use. I used to use a
> linux firewall before that, but had problems with rootkits.
> 
> Even with this, it still doesn't hurt to have a whole bevy of security 
> tools at hand for "just in case" (like windows, linux, OS X, etc).
> 
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