conceded on the torrent point. Cox does limit BW at the cablemodem end (I can 
monitor configuration changes). that and their "up to" argument in both their 
contract and advertisements leave open the ability for them to limit lower than 
the maximum advertised. 

I have already caught them shaping my BW (even though they have flatly denied 
that they are using the technology in DSLreports and other places). so, they 
can either complain, ot shape my BW, but they really shouldn't be doing both 
(its disingenuous). 

anyway, I am still seeding at 200KiB/sec and every few minutes I see it drop to 
0 with a bunch of rat packets. I might just start dropping those at the 
firewall. they are becoming an annoyance.

-Eric

On Jan 8, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

> I'd like to share my thoughts on this.
> 
> I would generally define a server as a host which provides something that 
> another host desires. If one accepts this definition, then all hosts 
> participating in a torrent are taking on a server role, regardless of the 
> application architecture (client-server or peer-to-peer), and could thus be 
> considered to be servers. I'd have to agree with Cox on this point.
> 
> That being said, I also think that a ToS which limits use to non-server 
> activity is ludicrous. That's like a phone service provider saying that you 
> can only talk about certain things on the phone. You're paying for a certain 
> bandwidth (pipe size), and what you do with it is of no concern to the 
> provider. On this point, you should prevail.
> 
> I'm no expert on the technical aspects, but I believe that the problem for 
> Cox is that when one customer saturates the line, other customers on the same 
> segment suffer. On the other hand, Qwest limits the speed on each connection, 
> so I expect that if you were using Qwest that you wouldn't have this problem.
> 
> Just my nickels worth.
> -- 
> -Eric 'shubes'
> 
> On 01/07/2011 03:23 PM, Technomage Hawke wrote:
>> I did,
>> they called the torrent client a server (there is no winning with these 
>> guys!). I spent over an hour explaining to him and 2 supervisors what a 
>> server was and why a torrent client didn't qualify. then came the "sharing 
>> copyrighted content" argument. It took just 10 minutes to prove that this 
>> wasn't the case. I also mentioned that I am paying for the bandwidth and 
>> expect to be able to use it to its maximum. besides, their commercials 
>> promote downloading of music and videos (some of which may actually violate 
>> their own ToS).
>> 
>> the last supervisor finally told me that he couldn't help. so I asked him to 
>> pass me along to someone who could. he gave me a number to corporate in 
>> atlanta.
>> 
>> at this point, I now have it on record that
>> 1. I am not violating any ToS
>> 2. I am paying for the bandwidth I am supposed to be getting per their 
>> advertisements
>> 3. I need to talk to corporate
>> 4. everything got voice recorded on my end.
>> 
>> I am going to call back on monday morning and see what I can do about this.
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Jordan Aberle wrote:
>> 
>>> You should call cox, if the torrent is legal it shouldn't be an issue.
>>> You are paying for your bandwidth so...
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Brian Weaver<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>> Here is a list of commercial seedbox sites, and there are many others.
>>>> Perhaps something like this might work?
>>>> 
>>>> http://filesharefreak.com/2009/01/19/complete-list-of-torrent-seedbox-services-part-ii/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Technomage Hawke
>>>> <[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> is there anyone in the valley that can offer an uncapped fat pipe for
>>>>> hosting a seedbed? I am starting to look at this as an alternative. it 
>>>>> seems
>>>>> cox doesn't like me seeding a torrent (even if it is legal). They sent me 
>>>>> a
>>>>> bitch letter about a possible ToS violation. Something cheap per month 
>>>>> and I
>>>>> provide the box.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Eric
>>>>> 
> 
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