On 6/30/05, Sagar Gokhale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, long rant coming up: > Everytime I see a beginner (aka n00b) ask a ... beginners question > here, a large volume of emails that follow harshly criticise the > person asking the question for not googling, or not RTFM, RTFA, > RTFwhatever. ... Well, ok, not googling is inexcusable, but anyway. > What has to be realized by us (the linux community) that most of the > users whom we want to 'convert' are not developers. I know hardline > windows devs, and they're not going to convert. Sure, there's a small > segment of 'upcoming' developers (aka students) who should strictly > follow the usenet rules, and who should RTFM, and who should try and > familiarize themselves with the unix shell. > But for the larger community of 'others', this advice falls on deaf > ears. Such an audience simply does not have the time to do all these > things; usability is the key issue; things should just work. Anyone on > this list who has used a Mac will know what I'm talking about. (Again, > I know the whole story about apple having to work with its own > hardware, while linux having to work with uncooperative hardware > manufacturers who dont give out their product details). But the truth > is that most things on a Mac just work ... ok, most things other than > their one button mouse. > Now, its not that linux (or other free os's in general, eg the BSD's) > are not capable of desktop eyecandy. The new opengl based stuff going > into x.org is stunning and way beyond what windows will have in years. > But everyone has to admit to one fact. Linux systems are just not as > usable yet, atleast to my mother and father. > As the originator of this thread said, he's gonna want to double click > on an rpm 5 years from now, and why shouldn't he? After all, that > makes more sense than hunting out something called a package manager > in your menu, or going to the terminal and typing rpm -ivh or > something. Now, unless we stop bitching about how these people should > stop wanting to double click on rpms and instead go out and buy a book > on bash programming, linux is never going to start being a threat to > windows. It is important to note that the audience is no longer people > who go "ooo look! shiny new kernel!". Unless that happens, linux will > remain a hobbyist os, and windows will remain the dominant desktop os > (i dont think x86 macOS will overtake windows by then :) ) > > So there. > -- > Sagar Gokhale
What you want to say??? Can you please put it clearly.. You are adding many issues in this and loosing the original focus. Its very true that people ask some very basic questions and those are absolutely genuine for them as they are very newbies. But it is also very true that many of us are getting similar questions again and again and again. After replying to such questions many times, people just get fed up and probably reply RTFM or may be even more harsh replies are possible. Somehow, people who just come in and go are not bothered to interact more and are not so interested to get into somebody elses problems. Other category of people are just takers. Least interested to give away their knowledge or information they have.(Typical query is--I want Linux project) Probably, newbies or even most of the students come into this category. They just ask questions. very few actually send a reply if the problem is not resolved for if resolved for saying thanks. Lets hope there will be more givers than takers. Its nice that you have raised this again and people like me will reply again and again. I am sorry if this reply sounds rude/harsh. -Sudhanwa -- ______________________________________________________________________ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: ([email protected]) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
