> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Gutierrez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:44 AM
> To: PLUG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [plug] [OT] Java IDE
> 
> 
> 
> Hey Orly,
> 
> # 
> # Do you have an alternative? I've noticed that Java apps tend to
> # be.. unresponsive. JClass looks nifty, but I suspect it 
> will also test the
> # limits of your JVM.. (he he) and stock Win95/98 is NOT 
> known for having a
> # robust JVM. The lusers who will be using my "product" will 
> tend to have
> # 64MB (or at best 128MB) Win98 boxes with sub-P200 processors.
> # 
> 
> There's Grid.J from 
> Hallogram(http://www.hallogram.com/gridj).. Wala na
> akong alam.  Actually, I tried to look for the one I created 
> a couple of
> years ago when I was learning Swing, and vanilla JavaBeans... 
> But I cannot
> find the source anymore.  If you want I can discuss to you 
> privately how I
> implemented it -- I used MVC pattern to loosely couple the JDBC (and
> the SQL) data, with the displays (grid, and text box).  

I also want to learn Java. Where should I start? Yes, I have a background in
C.
What tools do I need? And how can I test my applets?

tia

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