On 6/28/05, AC Perdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys! > can any one redirect me or have a sample copy of a > bussiness plan or proposal for internetcafe, i will be presenting it > to my dad coz im planing to set up my own netcafe using opensource? > The bussiness plan includes equipments(switch, utp cable) to be use, > software needed (opensource monitoring of users logging in) and other > service that i can provide. ill be starting with 10 pcs 1 server > 356kbps DSL. Actually i have the idea but i dont now where to start.
ako din i have a plan like that.. pls post your reply to the list. thanks... > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > On 6/27/05, Lito Lampitoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've tried Cedega and Winex on FC3 by installing NBALive 2004 and > > Ragnarok Online. No success. Let me know if someone here made it. > > For those who want to try, here is the link: > > > > http://www003.portalis.it/115/winexy2556954.html > > > > this isn't the Cedega subscriber's version though. > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2005-26-06 at 18:08 -0700, Irvin Piraman wrote: > > > > > > Just recently I came across http://www.transgaming.com/ which offers a > > > platform to run > > > games (Windows-based) on Linux. Amazingly, they have a number of games > > > listed > > > on their database that can run on their platform, which includes some > > > of the popular > > > MMOPRG games like Ragnarok. > > > > > > Although at this point, a fully open-source powered internet cafe > > > might be difficult to > > > establish since there are only a select few who has first hand > > > knowledge of Linux > > > and other open source apps, which, is important when it comes to shop > > > maintenance > > > and troubleshooting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > More than five years ago I installed for one College in Laguna > > > Redhat 6.2 > > > for their computer laboratory and I am glad that up to now > > > they are still > > > using the operating system. Yup, more than five years without > > > reinstallation. They were able to save enough money (on > > > windows > > > reinstallation alone which was done every semester before they > > > used linux > > > and licensing fees) that they can now shift to 64 bit > > > computers (using > > > Linux of course) which I believe should be used already in all > > > universities > > > and colleges. > > > > > > In order to attract students in using Linux, I installed Quake > > > for Linux > > > and became an instant hit among the students. It is quite sad > > > tho that the > > > company closed already and I had difficulty looking for new > > > games. > > > > > > The use of 64 bit computers is the best way of convincing shop > > > owners > > > (hurry because Windows XP64 will be launched soon) and several > > > Linux > > > distros are now shipping this variant tho games are still > > > lacking. > > > > > > JFTIONGSON > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clair Ching > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JM > > > Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "The Main > > > com> Philippine > > > Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Discussion List" > > > Sent by: > > > <[email protected]> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: > > > inux.org.ph > > > Subject: Re: [plug] Re: OS Bashing (from Is Linux for > > > Losers) > > > > > > 06/24/2005 12:50 PM > > > Please respond to > > > Clair Ching; Please > > > respond to "The Main > > > Philippine Linux > > > Users' Group (PLUG) > > > Discussion List" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/24/05, JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 6/23/05, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > computer shop that doesn't offer computer games. It can be > > > shown that > > > in > > > > > urban areas, computer shops are easily substituted for > > > gaming arcades > > > -- > > > > > in that almost all the people that pay to play in computer > > > shops would > > > > > want to play games more than surf the net. > > > > > > > > > > I guess it varies from one area to another. Take for example > > > the > > > shops near schools (more like universities). A lot of the > > > customers, > > > as far I have observed, are into typing and internet surfing > > > rather > > > than gaming :) > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > On a related note, I've been talking to the owner of a shop > > > where I > > > > study (the school will remain nameless). Apparently, he's > > > clued-in > > > > with Linux and, though he wishes he can run it on the > > > customer PCs, he > > > > can't simply because of the games that the clientele run. > > > OTOH, he is > > > > quite a fan of Linux on the backend, having seen the wonders > > > of > > > > running several instances of the Counterstrike server on a > > > Linux box, > > > > vis-a-vis one instance on a Windows box. He believes in the > > > backend > > > > potential of Linux, and would be a hard sell in terms of > > > Linux as a > > > > desktop platform. > > > > > > > > I've been talking to him also about using Linux as a gateway > > > and > > > > bandwidth shaper. The shop does have a lot of MMORPG > > > clients, and > > > > although it's being fed by a 512kbps DSL line, there is a > > > tendency to > > > > bandwidth-grab when Internet browsers download stuff or > > > listen to > > > > Shoutcast, hence those activities are severely curtailed in > > > the shop. > > > > The owner does want to enable clients to listen to music or > > > stream > > > > videos, but he also wants to give MMORPG players a lag-free > > > > experience. So, a Linux or even *BSD box acting as a > > > bandwidth shaper > > > > and gateway is a welcome thing. > > > > > > > > Why would this be a Good Thing? Well, in this case, the shop > > > owner can > > > > concentrate on providing more services to his clients-- it's > > > a win-win > > > > situation. People can listen to streamed music while gamers > > > have > > > > lag-free Ragnarok. With such a gateway box, the owner could > > > likewise > > > > > > True. That would give customer satisfaction :D A must! > > > > > > > expand into other uses (say, being able to hook up a > > > monitoring client > > > > or even a cafe timekeeper), without too much additional > > > cost. And the > > > > enabling technology here is the Linux gateway-- not the > > > desktop. ;) > > > > > > > > So maybe the desktop isn't a good fit at the moment. Big > > > deal. The > > > > backend is also an enabler, and does make good business > > > sense. > > > > > > > > > > Then again, case to case basis =) Depends on one's market. I > > > suppose > > > that this plan of the shop owner you have talked with is a > > > win-win in > > > his case and I think that he has really given it much > > > thought. And > > > that is good because it means that he has been looking around > > > for > > > means to keep his business running. > > > > > > In the case of the shop in Philcoa, I think that they'd be > > > fine with > > > Linux on the desktop because of the needs of their customers > > > which are > > > school-related more than gaming. There are other shops that > > > offer > > > games in the area and I guess that they have specific markets > > > already. > > > > > > The good thing here is that there are various approaches and > > > solutions > > > that are available to them =) > > > > > > > > It boils down really to where the money is -- and right > > > now (AFAIK) > > > > > Linux/Open Source and Computer Shops do not mix well, and > > > that's not > > > > > where the money is. > > > > > > > > This is where I beg to differ. Although Linux will not > > > prosper *at > > > > front*, it will, as I point out, prosper at the backend. > > > Eventually, > > > > of course, we'll see shops with Linux desktops. Soon, my > > > pretties. ;) > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like a Grand Plan to me ;) > > > > > > > > > > However, I still like Linux and it's place in the market > > > -- only not in > > > > > computer shops. > > > > > > > > Sometimes it's the invisible presence that counts more than > > > the visible > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > Let's wait and see what happens next. 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