I am unsure to what are you trying to recommend to your client, is it a client based software or a server based software or both, anyway, ive been running server for almost five years now and one of greatest suggestions to you is centos, it runs very very well on any hardware platforms, except that i havent tested it on SPARC, ubuntu is far buggy in terms of server based platforms because of some hardware and software support, ubuntu is much better to run as client rather than server, i have several case running this os on several server and they really suck, especially on RAID and scsi.
Besides all those things, centos comes from RHES platform making them stable like redhat.
I dont recommend Debian because they havent released their 64bit platform as of the moment and its because i dont maintained this type of operating system =)
Server - Centos, RHES 3 or 4,
Client - Ubunto, gento, mandrake, Linspire
Pick your choice.....
-Centos user for life!!! --
Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 8/31/06, Tito Mari Francis Escaño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> On 8/31/06, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > What I care about is what system I will be recommending to my clients
> > -- and I don't see how I can possibly sell the fact that
> > Free/Net/OpenBSD support is not as good as Linux support of hardware,
> > and commercially available support.
>
> Can you just please state what particular Linux distro you have in
> mind to deploy your client's app into? Then we start from there, maybe
> we can discuss the technical merit and/or demerit of that distro for
> your planned deployment.
Should it matter?
I already had my criteria set down in the first post. Please check
that again. The assumption is that the platform on which I will be
running Linux on *will* support Linux -- or better put, Linux Distro's
can be installed on whatever platform I'll be using.
> BSD was mentioned as option because you mentioned you're open to other
> platforms like AIX and HP-UX, which were mainly BSD-based.
I was open to other platforms, but that didn't mean that I *am* going
to recommend it. If I needed opinions about these platforms
specifically, I would take it in another list.
> The thread is getting too long without resolving anything and seems to
> me the whole thing is getting to be an ego trip
> email-reply-with-attitude quagmire, and I think the thread's making
> less sense.
Please notice that the mails that get the email-reply-with-attitude
are the ones that are 1) off topic 2) don't make sense themselves 3)
contain little to no technical/practical value or 4) grossly
incompetent suggestions.
Please check the other replies and tell me that nothing is being
resolved again, and that it's making less sense. I've already been
convinced the Ubuntu will take more time to mature, and I'm willing to
wait and willing to help out.
> What if you deploy your project using the platform/distro you're most
> comfortable with? If you'll deploy in on Sun servers, maybe best
> deploy on Solaris, on HP servers, maybe best settle with HP-UX, on IBM
> servers, AIX. If you really prefer Linux, stick with what you already
> have or know best.
The question was about using Linux Distro's. OF COURSE IT ASSUMES THAT
LINUX WILL RUN ON THE PLATFORM.
I've already run Linux on the UltraSPARC 32 and 64 bit -- and I've
seen it run better than Solaris in more than one situation. Do you
think that will make me discount the possibility of using Solaris on
the UltraSPARC if my clients were going to buy the hardware, and I was
going to develop an application for that platform? Of course not.
However, the thread is about Linux and Linux Distributions. My being
open to other platforms does NOT open up the floodgates for BSD lurve
on a Linux list. I can go on and on with C++ and its powers, but I
choose to keep it on-topic on a Linux mailing list. Please take a
hint.
> Recommendations or feedbacks can only get you so far that it would be
> your deployment anyway and what we recommend may have little or no
> bearing on what you intend to do.
No. Recommendations and feedback from people with genuine experience
and insights and not merely more questions and offtopic replies do
help. If someone who's been a Debian package maintainer, or a RHEL
administrator with significant experience, or an administrator with
experience deploying SuSE in the Enterprise Setting say something, I
listen and it makes sense to listen to them. Cocoy also piqued my
interest in maybe trying out Gentoo one of these days, but really not
yet on the mission critical systems.
> Let's say you know Debian or Slackware Linux almost like the back of
> your hand, when problems on your deployment present themselves, you'll
> have less time resolving them than solving it on what the majority on
> the list recommends but you have little or no understanding of.
The thing is, I DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THE OS DISTRO -- I would
rather have someone else answer the client's questions about the OS
and the distro around it, and concentrate on the software development
process.
It doesn't matter that I know Debian or Slackware, that's the least of
my concern. After all, I will be recommending it to the client anyway,
and it's up to their network admin and system admin team to keep it
maintained. However, I will be recommending something that they
themselves want to be Enterprise Grade, and since they're willing to
pay for support anyway I won't go recommending something that's not
supported by a community, a corporation, or local experts. Thus the
choices are RHEL, SuSE, and Debian.
> Sometimes, it's not what the majority sees best or recommends, but
> what toolset you're most efficient with that matters.
Check that again: it doesn't matter what I'm most efficient with, I/we
(just) develop software -- it's a matter of us recommending the Distro
that will be a good choice for the client.
--
Dean Michael C. Berris
C/C++ Software Architect
Orange and Bronze Software Labs
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