On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:40:15 +0800, "Orlando Andico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> emacs may have been bloated in the redhat3 days. but nowadays its pretty
> sleek.
> 
> eclipse is in a completely different league. heck its even more
> bloated than JDeveloper! if you read the reviews comparing commercial
> Java IDE's, JDeveloper always comes out at the top in the speed and
> responsiveness categories.
> 

i dont know about JDeveloper/JBuilder but much of Eclipse's bloat has something 
to do with the fact that Eclipse is really a framework and the editor just 
happened to be a byproduct. somebody could excise a lot of the bloat if they 
dont need it but the problem is that nobody can predict what would really be 
needed thus a huge core functionality (plugin) is built-in.

the Eclipse IDE is a perfect example of a 'product' engineered with standards 
and OOP in mind, with a bit of pseudo-intelligence built-in but at the cost of 
some bloat and performance hit. at this age where processing power and 
harddrive cost are decreasing, some have decided it is a good trade-off.

btw, linux: vim, windows: pspad (which is the closest thing to a free 
ultra-edit that i can find).

<snip>

ciao!


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