Hello all,

We had quite a productive meeting last night at Bo's Coffee, Robinson's
Galleria. I will be posting the summary of our discussion by mid next week.

Gary
http://lefthandedlayup.com

On Nov 6, 2007 9:34 PM, Christian Masancay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Good evening,
>
> Well, based on the SEC website (requirements for Non-stock
> corporations), a foundation is a type of non-stock corporation. I
> think PLUG would be generally be classified as a non-stock corporation
> just as Mr. Dizon has pointed out, and not a specific type of
> non-stock corporation like a foundation. The other types of non-stock
> corporations are foundations, religious corporations, federations,
> condominium and neighborhood associations.  PLUG doesn't fall to any
> of these types, so the general rules of the corporation code will
> probably apply.
>
> Anyway, I copied the requirements for non-stock corporations in the
> SEC website, please see below.
>
> REGISTRATION OF CORPORATIONS
>
> B. Non-Stock Corporation
>
> Basic Requirements
>
> 1. Name verification slip
>
> 2. Articles of Incorporation and By-laws
>
> 3. Affidavit of an incorporator or director undertaking to change
> corporate name
>
> 4. List of members, certified by the Corporate Secretary
>
> 5. List of contributors and amount contributed certified by the treasurer
>
> Note: Items 3, 4, and 5 need not be submitted if already stated in the
> Articles of Incorporation
>
> Additional Requirements
>
> 6. Endorsement/Clearance from other government agencies, if applicable.
>
> 7. For Foundations:  Notarized Certificate of Bank Deposit of the
> contribution of not less than P1,000,000.00; and Statement of
> willingness to allow the Commission to conduct an audit
>
> 8. For religious corporations: Refer to Sections 109-116 of the
> Corporation Code of the Philippines, and add an affidavit of
> affirmation or verification by the chief priest, rabbi, minister or
> presiding elder
>
> 9. For federations: Certified list of member-associations by corporate
> secretary or president
>
> 10. For condominium corporations/associations: Master Deed with
> primary entry of the Register of Deeds and certification that there is
> no other existing similar condominium association within the
> condominium project
>
> 11. For neighborhood associations: Certification from the Housing and
> Land Use Regulatory Board (HLURB) that there is no other existing
> homeowners' or similar association in the community where the
> association is to be established
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Christian Masancay
>
> On 11/6/07, Bong Dizon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A foundation and a non-stock corporation are not the same thing. P1M
> paid up
> > capital only applies to foundations. Plug is seems is not a foundation
> but a
> > non-stock, non-profit corporation.
> >
> > I used to do corporate law. I don't think the rules have changed that
> much.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 6, 2007 12:56 AM, Christian Masancay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Good evening,
> > >
> > > I've consulted with my financial audit counterparts in my company, the
> > > minimum paid-up capital for foundations (non-stock corporations) is 1
> > > million based on the latest SEC phamplet they gave me. Although, I
> > > think "paid-up capital" is not necessarily a 1 million peso deposit in
> > > the bank (I forgot to verify this, since in accounting paid-up capital
> > > is actual cash and contribution PAID to the elected treasurer of the
> > > corporation...hehe).
> > >
> > > Also if you browse the SEC website, the paid-up capital required for
> > > foundations is also their working capital (which is the minimum
> > > capital to run the organization).
> > >
> > > But Gabriel is still correct about the Php5, 000.00 based on the
> > > Corporation Code (generally applicable to corporations whether stock
> > > or non-stock). Capital requirements are influenced by the type of
> > > industry, so in the absence any specific provision, SEC can enforced
> > > certain levels of capital requirements based on the type of business.
> > > That explains why banks and most financial institutions have a bigger
> > > capital requirements than merchandising and service organizations.
> > >
> > > I'll send a copy of the latest SEC phamplet to Ian, Marvin and Paolo
> > > for their information.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the information.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Christian Masancay
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/5/07, Jaime Tiongson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > SEC changed their requirements recently and increased the paid up
> > capital
> > > > for non-stock non-profit organizations (1 Million). If PLUG is
> already
> > > > registered the group must see to it that the SEC status of the group
> is
> > > > still active.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/5/07, Christian Masancay <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > Good evening,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gabriel is correct, corporations (stock or non-stock) should have
> > > > > paid-up capital not less than 5,000 pesos prior to submission of
> > > > > documents to SEC. The only difference is stock corporations have
> > > > > subscriptions on their authorized capital stocks which must be at
> > > > > least 25% of the total subscription, and again 25% of those must
> be
> > > > > paid up (paid-up capital not less than five thousand pesos). When
> I
> > > > > say paid-up capital, I mean in actual cash or property (fair
> market
> > > > > value), and the cash part should not be less than five thousand
> pesos
> > > > > (please correct me if I'm wrong, I've been rusty ever since
> leaving
> > > > > financial audit three years ago).
> > > > >
> > > > > I cannot come on friday due to prior commitments. Mr. Paolo Alexis
> > > > > Falcone will come on my behalf.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Christian Masancay
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/5/07, Gabriel H. Mercado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > First of all, PLUG's registration is still under consideration -
> > meaning
> > > > we
> > > > > > still have to figure out if we need it at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Second, how can a non-stock non-profit org require 1 million
> paid up
> > > > > > capital? Do you mean every little charitable, religious, trade,
> > > > fraternal
> > > > > > etc NGO needs 1 million to get SEC registered? Even stock
> > corporations
> > > > (for
> > > > > > profit) only require P5,000 paid up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway, hope to see you guys soon. Please come Jaime if you can.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Gary
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/5/07, Jaime Tiongson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > For non-stock non-profit organizations or foundation, you need
> 1
> > > > Million
> > > > > > paid-up capital (money in the bank!)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 11/5/07, Orlando Andico < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My understanding is that the actual subscribed capital need
> not
> > be
> > > > > > > > 100% of the paid up capital. I think 5% is sufficient...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 2007 6:04 PM, Jaime Tiongson <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I hope the problem will be resolved soon. New Non-stock,
> > > > non-profit
> > > > > > > > > corporation needs 1 Million paid up capital. It will be
> very
> > > > difficult
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > the group to raise 1 Million and re-register again.
> > > > > > > >
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