No. And I do not have the new HTC phone on which Android runs. Do you have it? How much does it cost?
Pablo Manalastas *** --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Miguel Paraz <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Miguel Paraz <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [plug] PDA/Phone programming platform (was: Openmoko Neo ...) > To: "Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List" > <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 3:34 PM > Reviving this thread... Doc, have you tried Android? > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Pablo Manalastas > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am thinking of OpenMoko Linux as a platform for open > source > > PDA/phone programming, and not the Neo as a possibly > commercially > > successful mobile phone. The future commercial > success of the Neo > > is just a secondary objective to me. If any OpenMoko > Linux phone, > > by some accident, becomes commercially successful, > then the investment > > in learning OpenMoko Linux phone programming becomes > worth it. > > > > The choice of OpenMoko Linux is the only real choice, > for the moment. > > Compare the following PDA/phone SDKs: > > > > 1. Windows Mobile 2003 SDK on eVC++4.0. The driver > for the PDA or > > phone emulator will not install on Windows XP, so you > can not test your > > programs on the emulator. Can you even produce > executables for the > > ARM hardware? I do not know. I tried for the O2 Xda > IIs, but failed. > > > > 2. PalmOS Garnet SDK. PalmOS is gone, and all the new > Treo phones > > are now running Windows Mobile. PalmOS is a beautiful > developer's > > platform, with beautiful documentation, but it is > dead. > > > > 3. Nokia Symbian Series 60, 2nd Edition, FP2 for Nokia > 6680. The indian > > expert from Nokia who showed the use of the SIP > protocol stack could not > > even get the demo programs to compile, much less to > work. If the Nokia > > expert could not do this, how much less is the chance > that we normal > > programmers can get the demo programs from Nokia to > work? Have you > > seen the quality of the Nokia documentation for their > SDK? Do you know > > how much professional membership in Forum Nokia costs? > My annual > > salary in Ateneo will not be enough to pay for annual > subscription. > > > > 4. iPhone SDK. Has anyone in PLUG any idea what this > is? Has anyone ever > > downloaded it? > > > > 5. OpenMoko Toolchain > (http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain). I have > > not really used this, because it is too new, and I do > not even have the Neo > > phone to develop for, but after reading the web page, > I can see some hope. > > Now all I have to do is look for developer (API) > documentation. > > > > 6. J2ME. This is what the folks (at the Ateneo Java > Wireless Competency > > Center) use. Using Java, all they have to do is learn > one tool set (and the > > implementation details for each particular phone), and > they can develop > > for any phone with Java. But Java is interpreted, and > on a 400MHz ARM > > phone, interpreted Java will run much slower. > > > > Pablo Manalastas > > *** > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Orlando Andico > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > From: Orlando Andico <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [plug] Openmoko Neo Freerunner available > for USD399.00 > > To: "Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) > Technical Discussion List" > > <[email protected]> > > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 9:56 AM > > > > IIRC Symbian is going open-source. > > > > > http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208800628 > > > > I have had a look at the OpenMoko phone before and > frankly it's > > underwhelming. As others have pointed out, the > hardware is so 2003. > > Besides lots of companies have done Linux phones > (Motorola in > > particular and also Nokia with the 770) and > haven't fared too well. > > > > Before the iPhone came along, I would say that Linux > is too large and > > clunky for mobile phones. But Apple disproved that. _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
