On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:56 PM, fooler mail <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Orlando Andico <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> This topic wasn't originally between shared-everything and shared-nothing.
>
> take note where i bump in... they are talking about RAC scalability...
> i just emphasize between shared-everything and shared-nothing...

And RAC does scale. Not to the clouds, but for almost all practical
workloads it does.


>> No, you say they use it and they are happy and they have no problems.
>> That's quite a stretch from the Wikipedia entry, that's far more than
>> just referencing.
>
> then challenge that wikipedia page those *prominent* users section
> being mentioned... when i read the word *prominent*... it is logically
> to think they are happy with it...

Nope that's stretching the interpretation of the Wikipedia page.

I can give some examples of high-profile public references turning
sour internally but I won't.



>> My point is that you broadly labeling me as unable to understand
>> shared-everything is erroneous.
>
> no it is the other way around - shared-nothing...

I stand corrected -- so you do admit saying I have an old person's
mindset and cannot understand shared-nothing. Please correct me if my
interpretation is wrong.



>> And your understanding of Oracle
>> Coherence is very incomplete.
>
> and i dont want to explain from you further... as it will keep on
> meaningless debate...


Yes it is meaningless. But you can't get away with calling people out
as unable to understand something, and then dropping the topic when
YOU get called out.


>> You say I inject various topics to
>> prolong the debate but the reality is that you can't resist taking
>> personal digs at me.
>
> personal is nothing to do with here... but the irrelevant topics you
> were injecting that prolong the debate... like this one now for
> example...


Yes perhaps it's irrelevant. But I didn't question your competence.


..
> the previous posts of others already answered those questions...
>
> to make it clear.. i want to migrate from oracle to mysql because
> those features in mysql already serve my needs and cost me less.. no
> need to explain those oracle features to me...
>
>> Then you
>> come in and say shared-nothing is superior... that RAC exhibits
>> negative scalability...
>
> because it simply true...


See. That's the thing.

You cannot get away with broad generalizations like "RAC exhibits
negative scalability... and it [sic] simply true" without getting
challenged.



>> that's where this prolonged debate began.
>
> it is really upto you orly if you want to continue this useless debate
> already...

Well yeah this discussion has turned sour and I feel embarrassed to
the PLUG community at large. But I'm not solely at fault here.



-- 
Orlando Andico
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