In my experience working with Sun products, its a very good software
company(Solaris, Java, NFS, NIS, Dtrace, etc) but their hardware
sucks!

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On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Drexx Laggui
[personal]<[email protected]> wrote:
> 07Aug2009 (UTC +8)
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 08:47, jan gestre<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Drexx,
>> I was googling around the other day and bumped into the OpenSolaris website
>> and I saw some high end laptops like Toshiba R600 with OpenSolaris
>> preinstalled, it looks like Sun or should I say Oracle has gone a long way,
>> it's been some time since I've installed and tried using OpenSolaris and it
>> wasn't fun back then, my NIC was not detected and I have to compile for it
>> to work. I do have an apprehension, what would happen now to OpenSolaris now
>> that Oracle owns Sun? Will they continue to fund/support the project? I wish
>> Oracle would GPL'd ZFS.
>
> I think OpenSolaris will be around for the long run, as Oracle apps
> would still need a host right? I don't imagine seeing an Oracle O/S
> anytime soon ;)
>
> As the GCN interview[1] with Harry Foxwell said, OpenSolaris has a lot
> of supporters and momentum out there, so therefore it will be here to
> stay.
>
> What I think may happen in the near future is that the Sun hardware
> platform will fade away. Oracle makes software, while Sun is primarily
> a hardware company. That's why right now, and expectedly so, is that
> IBM and HP are spreading FUD[2] and trying to "cash in" this
> opportunity for them [3].
>
>
> On news about the recent JavaOne developer conference from Java World
> [4], "Oracle CEO Larry Ellison made a surprise appearance at the
> show's opening keynote Tuesday and tried to assuage developer
> concerns." However, "JavaOne attendees were particularly worried about
> whether Oracle would continue to support Sun's GlassFish, OpenJDK and
> JavaFX products. Oracle already sells two application servers, the
> WebLogic and Oracle Application Servers, so it may see no need to
> support the open-source GlassFish. OpenJDK is another open-source
> product, a version of the core desktop Java SE platform, released
> under the GNU General Public license."
>
> The silver lining in the cloud is that "Attendees -- especially those
> who used Sun's Solaris operating system -- expressed relief that Sun's
> initial suitor, IBM, didn't succeed. Because IBM's product line is so
> similar to Sun's, that would have meant a lot more dropped projects,
> and a lot more pain for Sun users who would be forced to migrate their
> software."
>
> What I guess will happen next is that Oracle will try to capitalize on
> all the open-source projects of Sun, and squeeze some revenue from
> them. If not, Oracle may drop *non-performing* projects. I won't be
> surprised if Oracle will figure out a way to charge license fees for
> the use of stuff Java... but hey, what do I know?
>
>
> [1] 
> http://gcn.com/Articles/2009/07/27/GCN-Interview-Foxwell-OpenSolaris.aspx?p=1
> "GCN: Administrators might be worried about what direction Oracle may
> take with Solaris, should its acquisition of Sun go through. We
> understand that as a Sun employee you can't talk about the merger. But
> you can you say anything how OpenSolaris may be buffeted from the
> winds of change in this regard?
>
> Foxwell: That certainly is a topic of discussion in the OpenSolaris
> community. I obviously can't say anything about the plans that Oracle
> may have around Solaris. But from what I understand, one of the
> reasons they went through the acquisition is the value they placed on
> technologies like Java and Solaris.
>
> Today, the OpenSolaris trademark is certainly owned by Sun, and I
> guess it will transfer over to Oracle [if the acquisition goes
> through]. But OpenSolaris has a large and active community of users,
> developers and contributors — several hundred thousand people. I don't
> see that going away regardless of what will happen with the
> acquisition."
>
> [2] Fear, uncertainty, and doubt
> [3] http://www.siliconvalley.com/news/ci_13000021
> [4] http://tinyurl.com/nfoml4  (or)
> http://www.javaworld.com/cgi-bin/mailto/x_java.cgi?pagetosend=/export/home/httpd/javaworld/javaworld/jw-06-2009/060309-will-oracle-kill-the-java.html&pagename=/javaworld/jw-06-2009/060309-will-oracle-kill-the-java.html&pageurl=http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-06-2009/060309-will-oracle-kill-the-java.html&site=jw_core
>
>
>
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