In my experience working with Sun products, its a very good software company(Solaris, Java, NFS, NIS, Dtrace, etc) but their hardware sucks!
Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach - "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/marie_von_ebnereschenbac.html On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Drexx Laggui [personal]<[email protected]> wrote: > 07Aug2009 (UTC +8) > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 08:47, jan gestre<[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Drexx, >> I was googling around the other day and bumped into the OpenSolaris website >> and I saw some high end laptops like Toshiba R600 with OpenSolaris >> preinstalled, it looks like Sun or should I say Oracle has gone a long way, >> it's been some time since I've installed and tried using OpenSolaris and it >> wasn't fun back then, my NIC was not detected and I have to compile for it >> to work. I do have an apprehension, what would happen now to OpenSolaris now >> that Oracle owns Sun? Will they continue to fund/support the project? I wish >> Oracle would GPL'd ZFS. > > I think OpenSolaris will be around for the long run, as Oracle apps > would still need a host right? I don't imagine seeing an Oracle O/S > anytime soon ;) > > As the GCN interview[1] with Harry Foxwell said, OpenSolaris has a lot > of supporters and momentum out there, so therefore it will be here to > stay. > > What I think may happen in the near future is that the Sun hardware > platform will fade away. Oracle makes software, while Sun is primarily > a hardware company. That's why right now, and expectedly so, is that > IBM and HP are spreading FUD[2] and trying to "cash in" this > opportunity for them [3]. > > > On news about the recent JavaOne developer conference from Java World > [4], "Oracle CEO Larry Ellison made a surprise appearance at the > show's opening keynote Tuesday and tried to assuage developer > concerns." However, "JavaOne attendees were particularly worried about > whether Oracle would continue to support Sun's GlassFish, OpenJDK and > JavaFX products. Oracle already sells two application servers, the > WebLogic and Oracle Application Servers, so it may see no need to > support the open-source GlassFish. OpenJDK is another open-source > product, a version of the core desktop Java SE platform, released > under the GNU General Public license." > > The silver lining in the cloud is that "Attendees -- especially those > who used Sun's Solaris operating system -- expressed relief that Sun's > initial suitor, IBM, didn't succeed. Because IBM's product line is so > similar to Sun's, that would have meant a lot more dropped projects, > and a lot more pain for Sun users who would be forced to migrate their > software." > > What I guess will happen next is that Oracle will try to capitalize on > all the open-source projects of Sun, and squeeze some revenue from > them. If not, Oracle may drop *non-performing* projects. I won't be > surprised if Oracle will figure out a way to charge license fees for > the use of stuff Java... but hey, what do I know? > > > [1] > http://gcn.com/Articles/2009/07/27/GCN-Interview-Foxwell-OpenSolaris.aspx?p=1 > "GCN: Administrators might be worried about what direction Oracle may > take with Solaris, should its acquisition of Sun go through. We > understand that as a Sun employee you can't talk about the merger. But > you can you say anything how OpenSolaris may be buffeted from the > winds of change in this regard? > > Foxwell: That certainly is a topic of discussion in the OpenSolaris > community. I obviously can't say anything about the plans that Oracle > may have around Solaris. But from what I understand, one of the > reasons they went through the acquisition is the value they placed on > technologies like Java and Solaris. > > Today, the OpenSolaris trademark is certainly owned by Sun, and I > guess it will transfer over to Oracle [if the acquisition goes > through]. But OpenSolaris has a large and active community of users, > developers and contributors — several hundred thousand people. I don't > see that going away regardless of what will happen with the > acquisition." > > [2] Fear, uncertainty, and doubt > [3] http://www.siliconvalley.com/news/ci_13000021 > [4] http://tinyurl.com/nfoml4 (or) > http://www.javaworld.com/cgi-bin/mailto/x_java.cgi?pagetosend=/export/home/httpd/javaworld/javaworld/jw-06-2009/060309-will-oracle-kill-the-java.html&pagename=/javaworld/jw-06-2009/060309-will-oracle-kill-the-java.html&pageurl=http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-06-2009/060309-will-oracle-kill-the-java.html&site=jw_core > > > > Drexx Laggui -- CISA, CISSP, CFE Associate, ISO27001 LA, CCSI, CSA > http://www.laggui.com ( Singapore / Manila / California ) > Computer forensics; Penetration testing; QMS & ISMS developers; K-Transfer > PGP fingerprint = 6E62 A089 E3EA 1B93 BFB4 8363 FFEC 3976 FF31 8A4E > _________________________________________________ > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph

