On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Oscar Plameras <[email protected]> wrote:
> And lastly, which source codes are they going to review. The > application source codes? But application > source codes interacts with system source codes. Are they going to > review system source codes, too? > What about the source codes of all firmware chips used in the system? > Are they goind to review those source codes, > too? How long is a piece of string? The code done by one programmer > maybe anathema to another and so > source code review leads to more controversies. As you know > programmers are full of egos and one argument > leads to another and another. The point is if it does the defined > specifications, it does not matter how or why the > code is written that way. > > Reviewing source codes is a mine field of difficult issues to deal with. > I totally disagree. This is done in the open source projects regularly. and programmers were supposed to check in their egoes at the door. > The simplest and easieast is to test by outcome, not how the code and > why the code is written that > way. After all, we are interested in the integrity of the system not > the integrity of the code. > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Pablo Manalastas > <[email protected]> wrote: >> On SysTest Labs: It will do a testing of the binary executable. The testing >> will be more scientific than the testing done by the Special Bids and Awards >> Committee (that awarded the contract to Smartmatic) but will cost COMELEC >> more than PHP70 Million. Note that this is software testing of the binary >> executable, not a review of the source code, and the two are totally >> different "animals". >> >> On Monday, October 5, 2009, CenPEG filed with the Supreme Court a petition >> for mandamus, asking the Supreme Court to force COMELEC to release the >> source code of the election programs that will be used in May, 2010 to >> CenPEG and to all interested political parties and groups, as provided for >> by law (RA-9369). >> >> The text of the petition can be found here: >> http://www.cenpeg.org/POL%20PARTIES%20AND%20ELECTIONS/OCT%202009/Petition%20for%20Mandamus.pdf >> >> The lawyers for CenPEG are Atty Koko Pimentel, and Atty Pancho Joaquin. I >> mention their names here, because they render their services for important >> causes for free, and by advertising them, I hope to give them business. So >> if you need legal representation, please talk to them. >> >> ~Pablo Manalastas, for CenPEG~ >> >> >> --- On Fri, 10/9/09, Drexx Laggui [personal] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> From: Drexx Laggui [personal] <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [plug] The Death of Election 2010 Source Code Review >>> To: "Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 11:01 PM >>> 09Oct2009 (UTC +8) >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 21:21, Richard Paradies <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > But Note Caution: Not certain if it's the same >>> company. >>> >>> I'm pretty sure it is. SysTest is one of the companies >>> *currently* >>> accredited by EAC: >>> http://www.eac.gov/program-areas/voting-systems/test-lab-accreditation/eac-accredited-test-laboratories/ >>> >>> >>> --And the list of the 5 testing labs in the above URL is >>> most probably >>> what is referred to in this news article: >>> http://services.inquirer.net/print/print.php?article_id=20090824-221835 >>> >>> Excerpt: >>> "Meanwhile, Ateneo de Manila professor Renato Garcia, who >>> sits as >>> consultant for the poll body's project management office >>> (PMO) for the >>> 2010 elections, said they have written letters to at least >>> five of the >>> international software certification bodies that can >>> conduct a >>> “formal, thorough review” of the poll automation system >>> software. >>> >>> “One of the five international software certification >>> bodies, have >>> already expressed interest to do the formal review of the >>> customized >>> automation software. This body, we found out, has been >>> conducting a >>> software review for Canadian-based Dominion, the software >>> provider for >>> Smartmatic's poll machines,” Garcia said. >>> >>> “If we can get them, the certification will be easier and >>> faster,” he added." >>> >>> >>> >>> > For Immediate Release on 10/29/2008. EAC Announces >>> Intention to Suspend >>> > SysTest Labs >>> > >>> > WASHINGTON, DC – The U.S. Election Assistance >>> Commission (EAC) today >>> > notified SysTest Laboratories Inc. of its intent to >>> suspend the laboratory’s >>> > accreditation based upon actions taken by the National >>> Institute of >>> > Standards and Technology (NIST). >>> > >>> > August 8, 2008 – Letter from NIST to SysTest >>> regarding initial reassessment >>> > findings. Reiterates EAC’s earlier concerns by >>> stating that SysTest has no >>> > documented test methods, unqualified personnel >>> conducting tests and concerns >>> > regarding manufacturer influence. NIST notes the need >>> for an on-site >>> > assessment, requires SysTest to submit specific >>> testing information and >>> > update NIST regarding testing documentation. >>> > >>> > October 28, 2008 – NIST suspends accreditation of >>> SysTest. >>> > >>> > EAC is United States Election Assistance Commission >>> 1225 New York Avenue >>> > N.W. - Suite 1100 Washington, DC 20005 >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:36 PM, jan gestre <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> What's with this? >>> >> <snip> >>> >> >>> >> US-BASED SysTest Labs was declared as the winning >>> bidder that will certify >>> >> the source code of the software to be installed in >>> the 82,200 precinct count >>> >> optical scan (PCOS) machines for the May 2010 >>> elections. >>> >> >>> >> Poll Commissioner Rene Sarmiento said that out of >>> the four international >>> >> companies that participated in the bidding last >>> week, SystTest Labs was able >>> >> to comply with all the requirements set by the >>> Bids and Awards Committee >>> >> (BAC) of the Commission on Elections (Comelec). >>> >> >>> >> Taken from >>> >> --> http://www.sunstar.com.ph/manila/us-firm-wins-bid-review-pcos-source-code >>> >> >>> >> They're not allowing Cenpeg et al. but the awarded >>> a bid to a US based >>> >> firm? WTF. >>> >> _________________________________________________ >> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > _________________________________________________ > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > -- Lay low and nourish in obscurity Linux market share is meaningless. I will always use linux. Who is with me? I just dont get why Microsoft spend billions on marketing against an irrelevant platform. _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
