>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Lofstrom <[email protected]> writes:

>> >>>>> "Keith" == Keith Lofstrom <[email protected]> writes:
Keith> Perhaps you should look at the numbers for a comparable
Keith> non-capital city such as Upsalla,

Russell> How dense is Lafayette LA?  Or the network in Burlington VT?
Russell> The dude from Burlington, Tim Nulty, says building fiber is
Russell> cheaper than wireless (assuming you actually provide decent
Russell> service).  See this:
Russell> 
Russell> http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/04/interview-tim-nulty.html

Keith> You tell us.  East coast towns are pretty dense, more like
Keith> urban Europe than eastern Portland.  

Have you ever been to Vermont?  The network was characterized as
Fiber-to-the-Farm.

  http://ecfiber.net/

Lafayette, Lousiana is not particularly dense either, afaik.  Its
voters. lead by a Republican mayor, decided they wanted it by a 65-35%
margin.  It turned on its first customer back in February.  Its
principle impediment was not financial, it was legal hurdles thrown by
incumbents.  All of which lost, but at the cost of some delay.

Keith> The fact remains that provisioning fiber to the home costs
Keith> about $1000 per endpoint for something durable (source: the guy
Keith> that installed fiber to my house).  

Most of the Portland network can be built aerially, like the telephone
and cable infrastructure is.  Downtown, it would be necessary to build
underground, however some of that sub-street conduit already exists.

The estimate is that it'll cost about one lane worth of a
trans-Columbia river bridge to completely build out a fiber-to-
the-premises network in Portland.  That's equivalent to about 3 years
of Comcast service.  Then we'd own it.  Maybe that sounds like a bad
deal to you.  It sounds like a good deal to me.

Just to repeat myself (again?), this doesn't rely on taking stuff away
from the fire department, poor people, health care or a soccer
stadium.  This relies on people redirecting the money that they are
throwing down a rathole on perpetual rent and limited freedom with
incumbents like Comcast, to something that we'll own, that will last a
long time, and that has massively more capacity than existing
infrastructure.


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