I and many others have had problems when trying to upgrade Ubuntu. I
think 3-4 different upgrades for me personally have failed with all
kinds of weird different symptoms that proved very hard to track down.
On all of them I finally gave up and wiped the disk clean and did a
fresh install of the then current Ubuntu, and each time it worked
*much* better. Things just worked for the most part where with an
upgrade they were broken in enough places to drive me nuts. I no
longer plan on upgrading the distro, just bugs and security updates.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Tony Rick <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Rich Shepard <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>>
>>> Ubuntu is famous for not shutting down completely.
>>
>>   We missed the fun, then. Ever since it was put on the ThinkPad, then
>> transferred to the Tecra it's powered off when shut down. This is a new
>> experience for us.
>>
>>> Re the wireless card, search the forums on the card and you may find the
>>> answer. The forums are one of the reasons I stick with Ubuntu.
>>
>>   I'll ask on mail list. I prefer mail lists that push information to me
>> over fora where I have to actively go there and pull down the information.
>>
>>> Of course, you need to be online to get to the forums. :(
>>
>>   Which I am. :-) The Tecra is sleeping now.
>>
>> Rich
>>
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> This post is interesting:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/315489
>
> and offers a somewhat less than friendly, but apparently reproducible, 
> solution.
>
> - tony
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